The Ellsbury Flip

umpire99 · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 28, 2007, 09:31pm

While watching the World Series, I noticed that when Jacoby Ellsbury catches a flyball he flips the ball into the air and catches it with his throwing hand. What should be the call if the fails to catch it with his throwing hand and it falls to the ground. Is this considered part of "the exchange"?

UmpJM · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 28, 2007, 09:34pm

umpire99,

Sure looks like "voluntary and intentional release" to me. That's a catch.

JM

GarthB · #3 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 28, 2007, 11:41pm

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Originally Posted by umpire99

While watching the World Series, I noticed that when Jacoby Ellsbury catches a flyball he flips the ball into the air and catches it with his throwing hand. What should be the call if the fails to catch it with his throwing hand and it falls to the ground.

Out.

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Is this considered part of "the exchange"?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by msavakinas

Agreed 110%. And are you gonna be the ump to say no that's not a catch in a big league game? just sayin...

Big league, middle league, little league....still an out.

ozzy6900 · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 29, 2007, 06:03am

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Originally Posted by umpire99

While watching the World Series, I noticed that when Jacoby Ellsbury catches a flyball he flips the ball into the air and catches it with his throwing hand. What should be the call if the fails to catch it with his throwing hand and it falls to the ground. Is this considered part of "the exchange"?

Are you serious? Think about this post again if you are really an umpire!

bob jenkins · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 29, 2007, 09:17am

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Originally Posted by umpire99

While watching the World Series, I noticed that when Jacoby Ellsbury catches a flyball he flips the ball into the air and catches it with his throwing hand. What should be the call if the fails to catch it with his throwing hand and it falls to the ground. Is this considered part of "the exchange"?

If he "catches" and then "flips", it's a catch.

If he "juggles" it's not.

On a routine play, the benefit of the doubt probably goes to the fielder -- especially in MLB and where it's the fielder's "normal" action.

On a running, over the shoulder catch, where the fielder is still regaining his balance, the benefit of the doubt goes to the offense.

SanDiegoSteve · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 29, 2007, 11:35am

The Ellsbury Flip should not be confused with the Fosbury Flop high jump technique.

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