Did he Touch the plate?

[Homerwary]

I doubt that Holliday ever touched the plate. But everyone seems to have forgotten the OTHER bad call that game - Atkins' home run called a double, which would have obviated the whole kerfuffle if they'd have gotten it right.

Someone mentioned replay... I'd hate to see it, but also hope not to see another season where at least three (and maybe five) home runs are taken away from a single team, as happened to the Rox this year. An announcer last night joked that if they did institute replay, they'd call it "the Clint Hurdle rule".

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Homerwary

I doubt that Holliday ever touched the plate. But everyone seems to have forgotten the OTHER bad call that game - Atkins' home run called a double, which would have obviated the whole kerfuffle if they'd have gotten it right.

Someone mentioned replay... I'd hate to see it, but also hope not to see another season where at least three (and maybe five) home runs are taken away from a single team, as happened to the Rox this year. An announcer last night joked that if they did institute replay, they'd call it "the Clint Hurdle rule".

For someone who is wary of homers, you sure sound like a big Rockies homer to me.

[cmathews]

For what it is worth and whether they are just saying the right things or not. Both Barrett and Bud Black said they thought he got in. Barrett went so far as to say he wasn't sure, but when he saw McClelland signal safe, there wasn't a doubt in his mind. In either case saying the right things or being perfectly honest they Pads are displaying fantastic character and class.

[Homerwary]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

For someone who is wary of homers, you sure sound like a big Rockies homer to me.

I guess it would take an SD fan to figger that out?

Yes, you're right - and I am therefore wary of my own judgement along with that of other "homers", hence the tag. 'Specially because I'm NOT an ump. I defer to Ump25's opinion and apologize for believing what some network
"homers" were saying, having not seen a satisfactory replay myself. Now I know of "only" two cut-and-dry cases of homers-called doubles that would have been changed by replay...this year.

But even if it were a half dozen I'd not be in favor of replay in baseball. The charm of the game is rooted in the human element and all its foibles IMHO, and should not be subjected to regulation by clinical analysis while the existing "human" system functions more than adequately. I think MLB's umpires do an incredibly good job - amazing given the challenges of the position(s).

[UmpLarryJohnson]

Originally Posted by Homerwary

. The charm of the game is rooted in the human element and all its foibles IMHO,

im sure mr don Denkinger would agree witcha

[reddevil19]

Originally Posted by UmpLarryJohnson

im sure mr don Denkinger would agree witcha

Don't forget Mr. Rich Garcia

But seriously, this is true. I really don't think that it's necessary to have IR, and the only way I'd be in favor of it is for fair/foul ONLY on HR's down the line. The TV angles of the disputed HR last night didn't do squat to solve anything.

99% of the time, MLB umpires, love them, hate them, or indifferent about them get the calls right and have a consistent strike zone. For the 1%, stuff happens, get over it, and next time, find a way to not be in the situation relying on not having the 1% happen to you.

[LomUmp]

Hey all,

The way I interpreted the mechanic was that Tim McClellan saw no tag, and made no call because of it. When Barrett went to get the ball to tag the runner, PU realized a call was necessary before the appeal, and he made the safe call.

Either that, or like was said before, he just has a SLOW mechanic.

LomUmp

[reddevil19]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...and-call_N.htm

[Homerwary]

Originally Posted by UmpLarryJohnson

im sure mr don Denkinger would agree witcha

Wonder what Todd Worrell would say.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by Homerwary

I doubt that Holliday ever touched the plate. But everyone seems to have forgotten the OTHER bad call that game - Atkins' home run called a double, which would have obviated the whole kerfuffle if they'd have gotten it right.

Was it a home run? I don't think so, as many were saying that the ball hit the back of the yellow railing and ricocheted back into the park, which would make it a live ball and not a (dead ball) home run.