MLB suspends Winters

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mattmets

Don't know if anyone caught this, but a quote from the dirtbag 1BC....

Don't know if you caught this from the New York Post:

PAGING DR. HEIMLICH

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Don't know if you caught this from the New York Post:

PAGING DR. HEIMLICH

Enjoy another first round sweep from your loser team.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mattmets

Enjoy another first round sweep from your loser team.

Yeah, our loser team with the best pitching staff in the NL. The loser team with the 2007 NL Cy Young Award winner. Our loser team with the most acrobatic shortstop in the NL. Our loser team is highly entertaining to watch, and has provided many thrills for our city over the years, and we love them no matter whether we get bounced in the first round or not. Our loser team would love to go to the Series again, but we won't slit our wrists if we don't.

The Mets are reminding people of the '64 Phillies with their meltdown.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Our loser team with the most acrobatic shortstop in the NL.

I didn't know you were a Giant fan. I guess you are SanFranciscoSteve, since they are the loser team with the most acrobatic shortstop in the NL.

I wonder if MLB placed a gag order on Mike Winters to avoid controversy. I'm sure they spoke to him about his comments, regardless or his suspension. No mention of a grievance being filed in his behalf. So far, all I've read are posters slamming the people that have spoken out on the incident that took place. I would be very interested to hear Winters' version.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I didn't know you were a Giant fan. I guess you are SanFranciscoSteve, since they are the loser team with the most acrobatic shortstop in the NL.

I don't consider Visquel to be acrobatic, he just has the best range of all shortstops, and a great fielding percentage. Give me Khalil Greene anyday for exciting, impossible looking plays. I'll put up his highlight reel up against Visquel's anytime. Unless you live here, you don't get to see all the unbelievable plays he makes, because they don't make Sports Center due to the late games of the West coast.

Oh yeah, I had forgotten to mention the all-time saves leader, who has 42 this season and over 500 for his career who plays on this lousy team.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I don't consider Visquel to be acrobatic, he just has the best range of all shortstops, and a great fielding percentage. Give me Khalil Greene anyday for exciting, impossible looking plays. I'll put up his highlight reel up against Visquel's anytime. Unless you live here, you don't get to see all the unbelievable plays he makes, because they don't make Sports Center due to the late games of the West coast.

Oh yeah, I had forgotten to mention the all-time saves leader, who has 42 this season and over 500 for his career who plays on this lousy team.

I never consider acrobatic plays to be the indication of a Gold Glove player. Hell, I've made plenty of acrobatic plays in my lifetime. Let me break it down for you.

Omar Vizquel won nine Gold Gloves in a row in the American League before the unbalanced schedule went into effect. He has won the last two in National League at the age of 38 and 39. Vizquel also has the Major League record for career double plays by a shortstop. Also, he has the lifetime career fielding percentage (.985) for a shortstop in major league history. I believe Major League Baseball bases such things on a thousand games.

Now your boy Greene, has a lifetime fielding percentage of .975, to go along with career batting averag of .254. This compares with Omar's career average of .275.

You just never saw Omar play enough to appreciate what a master he was, and still is, in the field.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I never consider acrobatic plays to be the indication of a Gold Glove player. Hell, I've made plenty of acrobatic plays in my lifetime. Let me break it down for you.

Omar Vizquel won nine Gold Gloves in a row in the American League before the unbalanced schedule went into effect. He has won the last two in National League at the age of 38 and 39. Vizquel also has the Major League record for career double plays by a shortstop. Also, he has the lifetime career fielding percentage (.985) for a shortstop in major league history. I believe Major League Baseball bases such things on a thousand games.

Now your boy Greene, has a lifetime fielding percentage of .975, to go along with career batting averag of .254. This compares with Omar's career average of .275.

You just never saw Omar play enough to appreciate what a master he was, and still is, in the field.

First of all, I doubt that you have ever been the class of athlete either Vizquel or Greene are, so your acrobatic talent counts for squadouche.

Second, how do you know how much of Omar I've seen? I've seen plenty. I watched all the games back in the day when he was with Cleveland. I know what a great shortstop he is. I will still put up Greene's highlight reel up against Vizquel's head-to-head. I've been around this game just as long as you have, so don't think you know any more about baseball than I do because that's just not the case.

I never tried to compare statistics, I just said that for my money, Greene is more exciting to watch. For me. How do think you can compare Vizquel to Greene. Greene is just at the start of his career. He is still on the upswing. Vizquel, whether you admit it or not, is in his twilight years.

Greene not only makes the spectacular plays, but he is a fine everyday shortstop who makes very few errors and has a cannon arm.

[bobbybanaduck]

dropped out of 1st place for first time since mid may and are 2 games out of wild card with 2 to play. better to be swept out of first round that not even make the playoffs, i'd say.

[bobbybanaduck]

i haven't read through this whole thread and don't really have the energy to, so i apologize if this is has come up already. baiting players is not terribly uncommon. i wasn't there, and obviously can't speak for winters. however, i can take a stab at what went on. winters saw bradley throw the bat, and went and talked to the crew about it. they probably were pissed at themselves for not dumping him then, and winters then baited bradley to get him to dump himself after he should have been dumped already. no big deal, same result as what should have taken place already. bradley turned it into a big deal with his circus act and i find it very amusing that he ended up with a busted up knee for acting a fool.