MLB suspends Winters

[SanDiegoSteve]

Of course officials are supposed to be held to higher standards and accountabilty than the participants. Why shouldn't they be? You just can't go around calling people a f-ing piece of sh!t, and that is all there is to it. That is the bottom line.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Of course officials are supposed to be held to higher standards and accountabilty than the participants. Why shouldn't they be? You just can't go around calling people a f-ing piece of sh!t, and that is all there is to it. That is the bottom line.

I think you are acting like such a homer you are not even paying attention to what anyone is really saying. And as far as I am concerned, players should not be using any language either, but that is another discussion for another day.

Peace

[gsf23]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think you are acting like such a homer you are not even paying attention to what anyone is really saying. And as far as I am concerned, players should not be using any languageeither, but that is another discussion for another day.

Peace

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I haven't seen one report from anyone saying that Milton Bradley used profanity towards Winters BEFORE Winters called him a FPOS. Or are we all just ASSUMING that because it is Bradley and because Winters used profanity that Milton must have said something profane to Winters first? Until I see something that says Bradley directed some profanity towards Winters first, then what Winters said was wrong plain and simple and he got what he deserved.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by gsf23

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I haven't seen one report from anyone saying that Milton Bradley used profanity towards Winters BEFORE Winters called him a FPOS. Or are we all just ASSUMING that because it is Bradley and because Winters used profanity that Milton must have said something profane to Winters first? Until I see something that says Bradley directed some profanity towards Winters first, then what Winters said was wrong plain and simple and he got what he deserved.

I am not talking about this confrontation. I have no idea what was said. Unlike many others here, I have no idea what was said and do not claim that profanity was used by anyone. But there have been many taped arguments and language has been used by players and coaches in arguments. I seriously doubt that someone that has to be restrained as if someone is preventing them from fighting, is not using any "inappropriate language." I know that I have worked games and I have heard language used and I do not recall such that nice language was used. Remember, the report and Bradley admitted to confronting Winters first.

Peace

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by msavakinas

san diego steve:

are you telling me you've never used a profane word when in an argument with a coach?

The question wasn't directed at me, but I'll proudly admit that in 30 years of umpiring, I've never sworn at a manager/coach/player. The only time I've used profanity is if I said something like, "Did you just tell me I was full of schit?" or when I repeat to a manager/coach what his ejected player said that got him ejected.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by msavakinas

san diego steve:

are you telling me you've never used a profane word when in an argument with a coach?

What, are you being intentionally obtuse or something?

I never said that profanity was bad to use. I said that personal comments calling someone a profane name are not to be used.

Have you even bothered to read any of my other posts? I said that Winters could have said "shut the f*** up" and he would have been alright.

Yeah, I've occasionally used profanity, but in 21 years of umpiring never once called anyone a f****** piece of sh!t, either.

One time I said to an arguing HS coach, "Dave, that's bullsh!t and you know it." I got reprimanded by my association for using profanity. This was way back in 1988.

In adult leagues, where cussing is acceptable, you still don't call people nasty names.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

In adult leagues, where cussing is acceptable, you still don't call people nasty names.

Even if its true?

[Rich]

The WUA is not challenging the suspension and the incident is costing Winters not only the five games but also an LCS this season:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...04933280_x.htm

Richie Phillips, where have you gone?

[SanDiegoSteve]

I don't know about anyone else's association, but if I called a player what Winters called Bradley, I'm sure I would have been not just suspended, but kicked out of my association. Winters got off easy.

Look, I probably know Winters as well or better than anyone on this forum. Like I have said before, I like the guy. He was just wrong in this case. Should he be fired? Of course not, but some punishment was needed.

Rutledge, just for the record, I would feel the same way if it had happened to your favorite team or player too. It just happened to involve the team I root for. No homer here.

I blame Bud Black for injuring Bradley, and I blame Bradley for being a hothead to start with. But the suspension of Winters was warranted.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I don't know about anyone else's association, but if I called a player what Winters called Bradley, I'm sure I would have been not just suspended, but kicked out of my association. Winters got off easy.

Please do not try to be overly dramatic. I do not see any umpire getting thrown out if all they did was use a "bad word." Suspended maybe, but not just using a bad word.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Look, I probably know Winters as well or better than anyone on this forum. Like I have said before, I like the guy. He was just wrong in this case. Should he be fired? Of course not, but some punishment was needed.

The previous comment is that you would have been thrown out of an association and now you are saying he should not be fired? Huh?

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Rutledge, just for the record, I would feel the same way if it had happened to your favorite team or player too. It just happened to involve the team I root for. No homer here.

I blame Bud Black for injuring Bradley, and I blame Bradley for being a hothead to start with. But the suspension of Winters was warranted.

If Bradley did not get hurt and this was a regular ejection, no one would even have made an issue out of this. Since Winters is your friend, why not ask him what was said? I would not be surprised if his side of the story is a little different. Not to say that he did not make any comments that was inappropriate. You are going off about this as if you had some inside information and you do not.

Peace

[tcblue13]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Richie Phillips, where have you gone?

What!!!???

[SanDiegoSteve]

Crew for tonight's Padres/Brewers game:

PU - Brian Runge
1B - John Hirshbeck
2B - Bruce Froemming
3B - Mark Wegner

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think you are acting like such a homer you are not even paying attention to what anyone is really saying.

That is just too stupid for words, so I won't waste any.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

That is just too stupid for words, so I won't waste any.

It must not be too stupid, you responded.

Peace

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by JRutledge
I think you are acting like such a homer you are not even paying attention to what anyone is really saying.

Originally Posted by JRutledge
I think you are acting like such a homer you are not even paying attention to what anyone is really saying.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
That is just too stupid for words, so I won't waste any.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It must not be too stupid, you responded.

Peace

Why does this remind me of two crippled frogs battling over a dead fly? Why? Why?