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Old Sun Sep 02, 2007, 09:38pm
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By openly discussing it, staying on the subject and not getting the thread locked might help. Not one comment I made in that thread should have caused it to be locked, I made simple statements backed them with medical conclusions and pointed to the cardiological sources. I can only guess the thread got locked due to the subject matter, the absurdity of the racial comparisons, umpires who quote medical citations like they have a clue how to read one, or whatever.

As to refusing to work, that's equally absurd as a question and as a relevancy. With an overfat umpiring community, baseball as we know it would be in jeopardy.

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Old Sun Sep 02, 2007, 09:58pm
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A few years ago, there was a thread in the basketball forum that the SEC was hiring 6'0"+ males with higher than average athletic builds. IOW, tall, muscular men.

I've already read many articles that claim in the business world, more beautiful women earn promotions quicker and also command a higher salary. The same also goes for men in the business world.

As for the OP articles, you have to be a subscriber to read them. In the paragraph that I could read, it seems dumb that there is a disrespect of the other flavour of ball.
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Old Sun Sep 02, 2007, 11:02pm
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it seems dumb that there is a disrespect of the other flavour of ball.
It does, indeed. But it also exists. Most of the guys I know that "go both ways" don't hide it. I think what causes the "disrespect" is the quirks associated with one or the other that don't cross over very well.

For example, BU carrying a brush and brushing off the pitchers plate and 2B. I worked with a guy (in a BB game) that did this, I almost fell over. He is VERY proud that he is a softball ump. This "thing" carried over. It is not widely accepted in baseball and even frowned upon.

It all stems from a lack of knowledge of the common practices in the other form of ball. You have the same disrespect for BB umps that work less than 90' diamonds from some of those that work nothing but 90' diamonds. It's also there for LL umps.
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Old Mon Sep 03, 2007, 11:30pm
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It does, indeed. But it also exists. Most of the guys I know that "go both ways" don't hide it. I think what causes the "disrespect" is the quirks associated with one or the other that don't cross over very well.
That was just more than funny.
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Old Sun Sep 02, 2007, 10:50pm
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, umpires who quote medical citations like they have a clue how to read one,
That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

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Old Tue Sep 04, 2007, 03:45pm
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As to refusing to work, that's equally absurd as a question and as a relevancy. With an overfat umpiring community, baseball as we know it would be in jeopardy.

You're the one who seems bent on making it an issue, not me. You've yet to answer my question. Short of refusing to work with someone who may be considered 'overfat', what would you have the general umpiring community do to address the problem as you perceive it? It's an easy task to point out flaws in a system. It's much more difficult to propose changes to address those flaws. All I see is you finger pointing with no real solutions presented.



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