unsportsmanlike ?

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by fitump56
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Originally Posted by fitump56

E.g. East Cobb-Atlanta coach, high powered program, multi-million $$$ private fields, has his players running in the outfield warning track, between innings, during the inning when there is "Time". On dead balls. Then he has them run when they are on O. Then while the ball is live, he screams bloody murder when the opposing team runns from the dugout to the warmup pen, F1/F2..

Bold statement, BiggUmp56, now justify the difference in calling his players for running the track in a dead ball, when there is a T-Out, and not calling down the opposing players who enter the field when the ball is live.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

"It's part of baseball, while running in the outfield during a game is not. If you want to complain to the state I'll give you some extra time to do so." (and, no, I don't recommend those exact words).

I agree with Tim -- the coach needs to be dealt with and I can't believe "all" umpires let him get away with it.

Part of baseball? By whose book? It's been part of this coach's baseball for as long as I can remember. It is certainly potentially less intrusive to run the track on a dead ball than prancing up and down foul territory when the ball is live.

[johnnyg08]

But who do you toss when you don't know who yelled it. Have fun with that one...I suppose when in doubt, you can dump the head coach...but it's nearing rabbit ears a little bit if you start dumping guys and not knowing exactly who's saying what...

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

But who do you toss when you don't know who yelled it. Have fun with that one...I suppose when in doubt, you can dump the head coach...but it's nearing rabbit ears a little bit if you start dumping guys and not knowing exactly who's saying what...

If you don't know who said it, issue a warning that if anyone repeats this offense that you will just pick someone and run them. I've never had anyone test this. It is a very effective deterent, because nobody wants to be responsible for getting a manager or player ejected for something they did.

If this sounds a bit harsh, I didn't invent this technique. I learned it from some very good umpires.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

If you don't know who said it, issue a warning that if anyone repeats this offense that you will just pick someone and run them. I've never had anyone test this. It is a very effective deterent, because nobody wants to be responsible for getting a manager or player ejected for something they did.

If this sounds a bit harsh, I didn't invent this technique. I learned it from some very good umpires.

A technique I used once when the dugout was going nuts about my partners call at second and wouldn't shut up:

I pulled the head coach aside and took out the lineup. As I held the lineup where he could see it, I began circling the number 4 batter as I said, "if you can't get control of your dugout, I'm gonna have to just pick someone to go."

He got the message.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by GarthB

A technique I used once when the dugout was going nuts about my partners call at second and wouldn't shut up:

I pulled the head coach aside and took out the lineup. As I held the lineup where he could see it, I began circling the number 4 batter as I said, "if you can't get control of your dugout, I'm gonna have to just pick someone to go."

He got the message.

Idiots are easily impressed. With real managers, you start that kind of bush league threats, then don't be surprised as PU when F2 just quite doesn't get his mitt up high enough to catch that 90mpher "erroneously" aimed at your head.

What a bunch of Hollywood junk you are preaching here. Young umpires who read this think that you actually act out this "I always have a witty, controlling, smartism" that stumps managers and players into reverence for you.

"Gosh, the PU, he was reely good, he put me in my place, he'll teach us a thing or two. Everyone, get up and Yell "Go Blue"; no telling what Mr. Einstein might do next!"

Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 3,607

Yeah, you're an expert alright. Spokane is a haven for baseball.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Idiots are easily impressed. With real managers, you start that kind of bush league threats, then don't be surprised as PU when F2 just quite doesn't get his mitt up high enough to catch that 90mpher "erroneously" aimed at your head.

What a bunch of Hollywood junk you are preaching here. Young umpires who read this think that you actually act out this "I always have a witty, controlling, smartism" that stumps managers and players into reverence for you.

"Gosh, the PU, he was reely good, he put me in my place, he'll teach us a thing or two. Everyone, get up and Yell "Go Blue"; no telling what Mr. Einstein might do next!"

Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 3,607

Yeah, you're an expert alright. Spokane is a haven for baseball.

As with all game management techniques, Garth's suggestion won't work for everyone, or for anyone everytime. It can be productively used, however. I have used a similar technique successfully.

I'm open to other (better?) suggestions.