When is BR Out?

[Dave Reed]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

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No different if a runner is retreating to a base he has been "forced from" (e.g. an R1 retreating to 1B after the F4 fields a grounder in "front" of him) or a runner is advancing to a base that is occupied by an entitled preceding runner.
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The clarification of the "his baseline" language doesn't change that.
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In the immortal words of Crash Davis, "Don't think too much. It can only hurt the team."

I think your example of R1 "forced from" is instructive, and it supports what you and GarthB have said: The change in the wording of the rule is a clarification, and is not intended to change the way the game has been played. Further to that point, I notice that the new wording is identical to that included in the 2004 edition of J/R. So the phrasing may be new to OBR, but it isn't new generally.

Finally, with respect to thinking "too much", I do appreciate that you gave my post careful (but not too much!) consideration. Thanks.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

so we can split hairs on terminology (abandonment/desertion), but if he gives up his attempt at achieving 1B...at some point to be determined when I see the situation, I'm calling him out.

Bingo!

A poster with a sense of brains.