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Old Wed Aug 29, 2007, 01:05am
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Would you guys recommend buying a couple of these shirts?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Umpire-shirts-...ayphotohosting


CAump, let me tell you the story of this shirt and its "designer". Back in 2005, this guy was sent to my Boss by Bigump56. My Boss made him a fair deal, to buy the lot of them on several conditions (the guy had 100s of these in several colors).

1) That he discount them (to the price he wants today)
2) That he send one of each color for wear and tear appraisal
3) He reveal the manufacturer
4) That the lot would be picked through for quality
5) More but I can't remember.

This guy (I can't remember his name) got his knickers in a wad and wrote Boss this email full of expletives. Our very own Bigump56 backed this guy to the hilt.

My bet is he still has 100s, he screwed his ownb pooch on this one.

Pass, there is no telling what shape they are in, how old they are and I guarantee you will have zero chance to return any of them.

Wow, thanks for the post, this is hilarioous.

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Old Wed Aug 29, 2007, 03:54pm
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CAump, let me tell you the story of this shirt and its "designer". Back in 2005, this guy was sent to my Boss by Bigump56. My Boss made him a fair deal, to buy the lot of them on several conditions (the guy had 100s of these in several colors).

1) That he discount them (to the price he wants today)
2) That he send one of each color for wear and tear appraisal
3) He reveal the manufacturer
4) That the lot would be picked through for quality
5) More but I can't remember.

This guy (I can't remember his name) got his knickers in a wad and wrote Boss this emauil full of expletives. Our very own Bigump56 backed this guy to the hilt.

My bet is he still has 100s, he screwed his ownb pooch on this one.

Pass, there is no telling what shape they are in, how old they are and I guarantee you will have zero chance to returnb any of them.

Wow, thanks for the post, this is hilarioous.
These shirts are becoming more common in my area. They have made their way to Ontario, and an umpire will now and then be wearing one. I don't recall there being any problems with the deal they put through. I believe everyone who ordered one got one, and they were in good condition. It does sound as though the manufacturer of these shirts fell far short of serving your boss though. Why he would have a problem with a few standards is beyond me, and the swearing in his email is just plain unacceptable. I'd like to see a copy of this email that Bigump supported, maybe I will have a change of heart and not look into these shirts. It's just that they are available in bulk, which cannot be said about any other umpire's shirt, so they do seem worth looking into.
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Old Wed Aug 29, 2007, 04:02pm
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Of course Fitump conveniently tells the story from his own jaundiced viewpoint. The real story is quite a different tale, but it appears I am not allowed to tell it here in this forum.

The designer in question (Scott, by the way) was treated very rudely by WJR (remember John Hastings?), Fitump's boss. Of course you will not hear that from Donny here, only a one-sided story.
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Old Wed Aug 29, 2007, 04:47pm
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Of course Fitump conveniently tells the story from his own jaundiced viewpoint. The real story is quite a different tale, but it appears I am not allowed to tell it here in this forum.

The designer in question (Scott, by the way) was treated very rudely by WJR (remember John Hastings?), Fitump's boss. Of course you will not hear that from Donny here, only a one-sided story.
Precisely. Mr. Rucker, Donovan's former employer and former owner of Officials Unlimited, made overatures of his own accord toward Scott to buy his shirts in bulk quantity. He tendered an offer per shirt that was less than Scott's cost to have the shirts made. When Scott declined the offer, Walter abruptly cut of all negotiations and sent Scott a few incredibly rude messages that he could have the shirts made by his own sweat shop for even less, or better yet, have them made over seas. In fact he threw Scott off of Officials Unlimited just because Scott wouldn't buckle to his offer.

Now, personally I love the shirts, as do many other umpires in my area. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Scott's designing eye, I think it's only fair to point out that he had the balls to think outside the box and try something new. Donovan Hammond (Fitump) disparaging Scott personally is simply ridiculous.



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Old Wed Aug 29, 2007, 05:04pm
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Now, personally I love the shirts, as do many other umpires in my area. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Scott's designing eye, I think it's only fair to point out that he had the balls to think outside the box and try something new.

Tim.
Tim:

I don't consider just adding more trim to a shirt with trim as "thinking outside the box." It's more like thinking "if some is good, more must be better."
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Old Wed Aug 29, 2007, 05:25pm
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Tim:

I don't consider just adding more trim to a shirt with trim as "thinking outside the box." It's more like thinking "if some is good, more must be better."
That's fair enough, Garth. I will say that the material is the lightest I've ever had in an umpire shirt and is durable as He11. One of the reasons you see the extra trim on the shoulder is that the shirt is designed to be a little longer in the sleeves than other more traditional shirts. This keeps the shirt sleeve from riding up on the bicep of someone with bigger arms, keeping the undershirt sleeves hidden. It's more 'roomy'. PM me with a mailing address and I'll ship one to you for you to check out. I already know you don't care for the extra trim design, but you may like the overall physical design of the shirt. Scott's a pretty flexible man, and maybe he can be talked into removing the extra trim's color scheme, leaving it plain navy blue.


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Old Fri Aug 31, 2007, 03:08am
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That's fair enough, Garth. I will say that the material is the lightest I've ever had in an umpire shirt and is durable as He11. One of the reasons you see the extra trim on the shoulder is that the shirt is designed to be a little longer in the sleeves than other more traditional shirts. This keeps the shirt sleeve from riding up on the bicep of someone with bigger arms, keeping the undershirt sleeves hidden. It's more 'roomy'. PM me with a mailing address and I'll ship one to you for you to check out. I already know you don't care for the extra trim design, but you may like the overall physical design of the shirt. Scott's a pretty flexible man, and maybe he can be talked into removing the extra trim's color scheme, leaving it plain navy blue.


Tim.
I do not think the issue is the type of fabric. The issue is the trim on the arms. The type of fabric can be used regardless of type of shirt. Also I do not see anything inherently wrong with the current shirts. The ones I have fit and feel very comfortable. I am not getting why these shirts are so revolutionary.

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Old Wed Aug 29, 2007, 04:34am
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I would love to see Under Armour make shirts.
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