It's Why We Call Them Rats......

[UmpLarryJohnson]

Rats either--

dont bother to know rules or--

learn rules to twist to thier advantage. they see no other reason to do so!

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by UmpLarryJohnson

Rats either--

dont bother to know rules or--

learn rules to twist to thier advantage. they see no other reason to do so!

Is that your entire experience with coaches?

[UmpLarryJohnson]

Originally Posted by Interested Ump

Is that your entire experience with coaches?

ANY umpire whos been in the 'game' long enough....this WILL be your experience-- if its not, then you arent umpiring games of conseqence.


if you want to study the back ground of the term "rat' you need to do a search here--if you are not familair with the term then you are brandnew to umpiring!

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by UmpLarryJohnson

ANY umpire whos been in the 'game' long enough....this WILL be your experience-- if its not, then you arent umpiring games of conseqence.


if you want to study the back ground of the term "rat' you need to do a search here--if you are not familiar with the term then you are brandnew to umpiring!

I think I have enough experiences and game counts to say that my overall experience with coaches has been as varied as their's with umpires. A lot of good, bad and mixed. I catch the drift of the word Rat and, no, the term is common only here as far as I know.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Interested Ump

the term is common only here as far as I know.

Having worked in four states and having close friends in at least ten others, I know the term to be common in many areas of the country.

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Having worked in four states and having close friends in at least ten others, I know the term Rat to be common in many areas of the country.

SE USA, FL presently (if I ever get a flight back instead of missing them -duh). Never heard Rat. Others terms less kind, by the truckload.

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Having worked in four states and having close friends in at least ten others, I know the term RAT to be common in many areas of the country.

I have found that those who are irresponsible in their treatment of one class of people are typically irresponsible toward several classes of people. The excuse is often parlayed that its locker room talk or that no one really means what they are saying. That is also not true. Insulting and degrading behavior is meant to be exactly that.

No one can change how people treat each other. I would like to think that umpires would be above such childish language, that they would have a higher opinion of themselves and their fellow man. That isn't the reality.

Rat used as you admitted, in a cruel and degrading sense, serves no positive purpose. In the end, it reflects poorly on the user, nothing else. That reflection boils over on all officials which is a reality and a shame concurrently.

In the past, I tried to make light of coaches, players, parents and fans who have asked me about people who use pejorative terms like Rat but I don't anymore. I tell the questioners they have it right. The user is a dunce and I that I intend to separate myself as far as possible from the abuser and the abusive language.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Interested Ump

In the past, I tried to make light of coaches, players, parents and fans who have asked me about people who use pejorative terms like Rat but I don't anymore. I tell the questioners they have it right. The user is a dunce and I that I intend to separate myself as far as possible from the abuser and the abusive language.

In the past you have claimed to be unfamiliar with the term.

In the past you posted a very similar post in the "Smittyisms" thread.

In the past you used a different "moniker" and couldn't hold out for long before you went after your targeted posters and exposed yourself for who you are.

I don't need to wait any longer.

Ta-ta UninterestingUmp. Join your alter-ego, FitUmp, on the ignore list.