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At their option 6 14.63%
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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 08:48pm
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Should the MLB return to the balloon??

Piggybacking on my other thread (Yeah I know, it seems I'm obsessed with it ). I was wondering, in light of safety concerns, should the MLB return to the balloon protector?
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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 08:50pm
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Piggybacking on my other thread (Yeah I know, it seems I'm obsessed with it ). I was wondering, in light of safety concerns, should the MLB return to the balloon protector?
No. No. No. No. I think that's long enough.
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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 08:52pm
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No. No. No. No. I think that's long enough.
OK, now for the obligatory follow-up. Besides the influence of Bill Klem and the National League, why??
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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 08:56pm
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The poll is more than obviously biased. The answers are so slanted to a presumed opinion that it is a miracle the don't slide off the monitor's screen.

If you are truly interested in an honest opinion, provide proper alternative answers. Otherwise, no one who disagrees with you has a viable choice and should definitely not participate.
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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 09:03pm
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Of course I was approaching this with a rather tongue-in-cheek sense of humor.

Now! As to why I have the interest in this subject? Watching vintage footage of the American League vets like Nestor Chylack, Art Frantz, etc. using the raft, it got me thinking "why would anyone in their right mind want areas of their bodies exposed to serious injury"? These areas include: Forearms, collarbone, lower sternum, and upper thighs.
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Of course I was approaching this with a rather tongue-in-cheek sense of humor.

Now! As to why I have the interest in this subject? Watching vintage footage of the American League vets like Nestor Chylack, Art Frantz, etc. using the raft, it got me thinking "why would anyone in their right mind want areas of their bodies exposed to serious injury"? These areas include: Forearms, collarbone, lower sternum, and upper thighs.
Who said any of us are in our right mind?


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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 09:06pm
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Who said any of us are in our right mind?


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That's true
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Of course I was approaching this with a rather tongue-in-cheek sense of humor.

Now! As to why I have the interest in this subject? Watching vintage footage of the American League vets like Nestor Chylack, Art Frantz, etc. using the raft, it got me thinking "why would anyone in their right mind want areas of their bodies exposed to serious injury"? These areas include: Forearms, collarbone, lower sternum, and upper thighs.
If you're getting hit in the collarbone and sternum, perhaps you should upgrade to a better chest protector .
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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 11:43pm
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If you're getting hit in the collarbone and sternum, perhaps you should upgrade to a better chest protector .
My equipment is more than adequate, thank you.
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Old Sun Aug 12, 2007, 04:55am
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My equipment is more than adequate, thank you.
Not if you're getting hit on the collarbone.
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My equipment is more than adequate, thank you.
Then it's not adjusted / being worn properly.
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My equipment is more than adequate, thank you.
Really? 'Cause mine protects both my collarbone and my sternum. What the heck are you wearing?
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Old Sun Aug 12, 2007, 02:06pm
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Of course I was approaching this with a rather tongue-in-cheek sense of humor.

Now! As to why I have the interest in this subject? Watching vintage footage of the American League vets like Nestor Chylack, Art Frantz, etc. using the raft, it got me thinking "why would anyone in their right mind want areas of their bodies exposed to serious injury"? These areas include: Forearms, collarbone, lower sternum, and upper thighs.
When discussing chest protectors, the collarbones, ribs and sternum are the most important areas that need to be protected. If you buy a quality chest protector and properly adjust it, these areas are protected - plain and simple!

The arms, thighs and hands are exposed when using an inside cheat protector and are up to you to protect. Now ask yourself a question: Why would the guys that do this for a living move away from the "raft"? Because it made them more mobile, gave them a better view and made them better umpires! Would they give up protection? I don't think so!

Your problem is simple! You are dealing with amateur players (worse yet, small diamond players) and not professionals. A professional catcher will do everything possible not to let that ball get by him. Amateur players will try but some manage to sneak by them. Small diamond catchers have yet to learn their craft so if you work these games, you might be getting whacked more than normal.

I use a properly adjusted WV Platinum and I have never sustained any injury to any part that the protector was designed to cover. My arms have been hit but nothing that didn't heal. I keep them tight to the body as others so they are not a target. My shin guards take a pounding but my thighs rarely get hit. I do not work the small diamond.

I stress properly adjusted because even the best made chest protector cannot do it;s job if it is not worn properly. Believe me when I tell you that most of the umpires that I see spend a lot of money on the latest and greatest but have no clue how to wear the unit properly! I actually worked with a guy several years ago that was wearing a WV Platinum and broke his left collarbone during a game! I told him as we were dressing that his protector was not correctly adjusted but he said "This is how I like to wear it!". He no longer umpires and tried to sue Wilson. His case was thrown out, by the way.

If you want to use a raft because you are afraid of being exposed, then by all means use it! You are going to take some ribbing for it but I think that it is better to use a raft than using thigh guard underwear and arm guards and hand protectors because they make you look like a complete a$$! By the way, I used to use a raft when I started over two and a half decades ago. The best day of my umpiring career was when I bought my first Diamond chest protector to wear under my Elbeco. I believe the feeling was of Freedom!

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Excellent explanation indeed. BTW, one advantage my ITECH has, I can cinch the shoulder/upper arm guards for that snug fit.
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Ozzy - I wear a WV Platinum and my collarbone could possibly be a bit exposed. Its something that I looked into this past year in front of the mirror. I'm simply out of adjustments on the thing. I'm going to try to rig it up differently for Fall Ball, but if not, my WV Platinum will be in the garbage by next spring.
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