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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 08:56pm
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So in my head, here's what I'm keeping track of- Fair/foul, catch/no catch, proper tags, runners touching bases, potential time play, not getting hit with a throw, and keeping my *** out of trouble.
I rarely work by myself, but if given this situation there would be only two things on my mind. FAIR/FOUL and CATCH/NO CATCH. You can only do so much with one umpire.

If HC comes out let him rant until he says something personal or profane or he bumps you, then run him. What were the assistants yelling? Personal or profane yelling should be instantaneous ejections. Pretty soon you will be left with no coaches or ONE who has some sense not to yell personal or profane at you and be willing to discuss calmly. If not, then so be it.

The calmer you are the easier the ejection report will be to write, assuming you have to write one for summer ball.

What do you mean by batter strikes out with two pitches near his nose? Were these called or swinging? If called you might want to lower your zone about a foot, at least.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 09:05pm
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If HC comes out let him rant until he says something personal or profane or he bumps you, then run him. What were the assistants yelling? Personal or profane yelling should be instantaneous ejections....

What do you mean by batter strikes out with two pitches near his nose? Were these called or swinging? If called you might want to lower your zone about a foot, at least.
The assistants were just yapping about the call..."That ball was five feet foul, there's no way that was a fair ball...." I didn't hear anything that would warrant my tossing someone from the bench.

The last out of the game was 2 ugly swings by the kid that was up. I have no idea why he swung at the pitches- the game didn't matter for the Sr. Babe Ruth tournament, so I think everyone just wanted to get the hell out of Dodge at that point.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 09:28pm
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The assistants were just yapping about the call..."That ball was five feet foul, there's no way that was a fair ball...." I didn't hear anything that would warrant my tossing someone from the bench.
Ignore 'em.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 10:29pm
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Matt,

This is what I do in games where there are no foul lines, especially if I'm working solo:

Pre-game plate conference:

Me: Okay fellas, today I am by myself. Your league has decided that one umpire is enough, so that's the way it's going to be. You do not have foul lines drawn (many times I have NO foul lines whatsoever) past first base, so whatever I call is what it's going to be. I will have no argument of fair or foul on balls hit past 1st and 3rd. I'm not entertaining arguments on safe/out calls on stolen bases. I'm going to give it my best look, and if the ball beats the runner and a tag is down, that runner is going to be out. Any questions?

Them: No sir, Mr. Umpire. . . . .

then they argue and whine anyway, and I immediately remind them that if they want it called differently to pay for 2 umpires (or chalk the field, whichever is applicable). After this one reminder, I start ejecting.

I also don't invite the new head honcho to further discuss anything.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 10:31pm
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The irony is on Sunday, the assistant told me the other guys were being too hard on me since I was working by myself. Then today he proved that once a rat, always a rat.

Seems like everyone else agrees that discussing with the new head coach was probably the worst decision I've made on the field in a while. Thanks for the responses so far everyone.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 10:41pm
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Fitty, I allow questions during the plate conference. What, do you try to be a bada$$ and not let them ask questions? There is nothing wrong with asking "any questions?" I want them to be crystal clear on what I will and will not put up with.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 11:30pm
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Fitty, I allow questions during the plate conference. What, do you try to be a bada$$ and not let them ask questions? There is nothing wrong with asking "any questions?" I want them to be crystal clear on what I will and will not put up with.

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Fitty, I allow questions during the plate conference.
So do I.

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What, do you try to be a bada$$ and not let them ask questions?
I have no idea what you are blathering on about.

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There is nothing wrong with asking "any questions?" I want them to be crystal clear on what I will and will not put up with.
If you have told them, which is in this case fair/fouls with no lines, and your answer is no tolerance, what is it you want them to ask about?
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I called a summer (30+ games) as a one man HS ball, one field. Because of a precise pre-game (for the Visiting Coach mainly), I had only two problems, same Coach twice. Both times it was R1/R3, R1 steal and throw.

"Blue, he missed the tag!!"
Coach, I don't doubt he did."
What are you gong to do then"
"Nothing, what part of the pre-game did you not understand regarding tolerance?"
But that was easy to see."

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"Blue, that was easy to see!"

(Time) "F2, go tell your Coach that will be his last comment for the game but go to F1 first and tell him why you are going over to Coach"

F1 does, Coach calls Time, "Blue, that was an easy call.......

"Game suspended."

Going over to HC, "we will replay when HC is ready to accept a one man ump. Game clock is live." Off to the parking lot, clock ticks.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 10:32pm
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Matt,

This is what I do in games where there are no foul lines, especially if I'm working solo:

Pre-game plate conference:

Me: Okay fellas, today I am by myself. Your league has decided that one umpire is enough, so that's the way it's going to be. You do not have foul lines drawn (many times I have NO foul lines whatsoever) past first base, so whatever I call is what it's going to be. I will have no argument of fair or foul on balls hit past 1st and 3rd. I'm not entertaining arguments on safe/out calls on stolen bases. I'm going to give it my best look, and if the ball beats the runner and a tag is down, that runner is going to be out. Any questions?
Never, ever say "any questions". You have made the rules, move on. If they want a clarification, let them come forward.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 10:39pm
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Never, ever say "any questions". You have made the rules, move on. If they want a clarification, let them come forward.
I would bring it up pre-game....get everything done early and get it over with. There is no worse time to bring up a quirky rule or a stupid coach comment then in the heat of a close game. Discuss it pre-game, establish whatever it is you need to establish, and let them adjust accordingly.
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Never, ever say "any questions". You have made the rules, move on. If they want a clarification, let them come forward.

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I would bring it up pre-game....get everything done early and get it over with. There is no worse time to bring up a quirky rule or a stupid coach comment then in the heat of a close game. Discuss it pre-game, establish whatever it is you need to establish, and let them adjust accordingly.
Agreed. But don't end the conversation asking for more conversation. If you ask for questions, you can get a thousand of them. If you have been clear and consise in this sitch to wit:

"Coaches, we do not have foul lines our calls stands with no tolerance for questioning. (insert the remainder of your pre-game)."

"(wrapping up)" ....Coaches, are you ready to play? (here they have a full opportunity to ask whatever they want).....pause... "Let's play, best of luck to both of you!"

Keep it simple.
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