Leading

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by njdevs00cup

FED- Is there any rule which dictates where the runner must take his lead from first base?

Fair territory. What he cannot do is get a running start from behind the base in foul territory.



Tim.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Fair territory. What he cannot do is get a running start from behind the base in foul territory.



Tim.

Please cite a rule reference where it states the base runner must take his lead in fair territory.

I am familiar with the 8-4-2-o: Any runner is out when he: positions himself behind a base to get a running start. No mention of fair or foul territory. I suppose runners that stand in foul territory at 3B are guilty of an infraction with your logic.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Please cite a rule reference where it states the base runner must take his lead in fair territory.

I am familiar with the 8-4-2-o: Any runner is out when he: positions himself behind a base to get a running start. No mention of fair or foul territory. I suppose runners that stand in foul territory at 3B are guilty of an infraction with your logic.

The question was about a lead from first base, not any base.

[officialtony]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Fair territory.

Tim.

That is NOT correct.
It does NOT have to be in fair territory to be legal.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by officialtony

That is NOT correct.
It does NOT have to be in fair territory to be legal.

The subject is a lead from first base. If you're in foul territory you're behind the base.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

The subject is a lead from first base. If you're in foul territory you're behind the base.

Thanks, Rich. And Wayne, I don't care how long the case play has been there, it's ridiculous. Until a ball has been batted the basepaths belongs to the runners.


Tim.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Thanks, Rich. And Wayne, I don't care how long the case play has been there, it's ridiculous. Until a ball has been batted the basepaths belongs to the runners.


LHO.

You're most welcome, Lee Harvey.

The rule states positions himself behind a bag to get a running start. This rule is there to prevent runners from taking a running start and timing it so they will have momentum going to the next base on a sacrifice fly. The other rule is there to prevent a base runner from having an advantage to interfere with a throw from F1 to F3.

8-4-2o has nothing to do about where a base runner establishes his lead. It merely states he cannot position himself behind a bag to get a running start. I would think a coach would want a runner with 93 foot lead as opposed to an eighty foot run with a ten foot lead, with a running start no less.

Now show me a rule where it is specifically states a runner must be in fair territory to establish a lead.

[officialtony]

You're right Rich - my bad.
I, of course, was thinking about 3rd base.
Thanks.