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Old Wed Jul 25, 2007, 09:31pm
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Bill Haller is #1 . . . KK on dish and a couple of other notables walk through the frame . . .

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Old Wed Jul 25, 2007, 09:43pm
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Bill Haller is #1 . . . KK on dish and a couple of other notables walk through the frame . . .

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And underlying Earl's peevishness about the balk call was the fact that MLB allowed Haller to call games in which his brother was the catcher.
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Old Fri Jul 27, 2007, 07:12pm
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And underlying Earl's peevishness about the balk call was the fact that MLB allowed Haller to call games in which his brother was the catcher.
Earl Weaver is hardly a role model.

And what is exactly wrong with umpiring if your brother is playing.?
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Old Fri Jul 27, 2007, 07:50pm
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Earl Weaver is hardly a role model.

And what is exactly wrong with umpiring if your brother is playing.?
It presents a possible conflict of interest. Actually, it IS a conflict of interest.
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Old Sun Jul 29, 2007, 08:28pm
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There was so much bad blood between Weaver and Ron Luciano that the AL had to schedule Luciano's crew away frm Baltimore games.
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Old Mon Jul 30, 2007, 07:32pm
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Is the second base umpire Mike Reilly?
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Old Sun Jul 29, 2007, 10:47pm
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It presents a possible conflict of interest. Actually, it IS a conflict of interest.
There is no conflict of interest since neither gained anything from the other.
Both made the major leagues on abiliity, not sibling help.

It is ludicrous to specualte that Umpire Haller would change a call to benefit his brother since umpires at that level are under constant scrutiny and supervision.

Major League Baseball would have raised red flags about the integrity of its umpires if it had refused to let the Hallers meet on the field.

By letting it happen the event is now nothing more than a footnote in baseball trivia.
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Old Mon Jul 30, 2007, 03:26pm
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There is no conflict of interest since neither gained anything from the other.
Both made the major leagues on abiliity, not sibling help.

It is ludicrous to specualte that Umpire Haller would change a call to benefit his brother since umpires at that level are under constant scrutiny and supervision.
I made no such specualtion. And I agree, not only due to the scrutiny, but also because of the shear integrity of the players and umpires at that level.

I made no implications about these two, or MLB (players or umpires). I agree with what you've said. However, there may have been underlying feelings about the fact that they were (are) related leading to U-Haller "wanting to f*** them." I don't know that and am not implying that this is true.

There was a broad question asked about calling a game with a relative playing. I answered just as broadly. I agree that there was nothing gained by these two. There are leagues that won't let you call your brother's, son's, daughter's...game just to avoid any possible conflict of interest. This is why I answered the general question as I did.
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Old Mon Jul 30, 2007, 07:15pm
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because of the shear integrity of the players and umpires at that level.
The integrity of all professional officials may have taken a hit in light of the current NBA/Tim Donaghy scandal. You can't blame fans, media or anyone else if they start to question the motives of officials.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 10:26am
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I made no such specualtion. And I agree, not only due to the scrutiny, but also because of the shear integrity of the players and umpires at that level.
Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Rose and Sheffield to name just a few that display such overwhelming integrity.
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