Fielder carries ball out of play

[greymule]

It's not about where you land, but about ability to not land there.

I understand that the fielder's momentum is involved, though after a catch fielders don't often enter DBT purely out of choice. But whether or not the fielder falls or remains standing is key, except apparently where there's a "seating area." This rule makes sense, because if a fielder sprints toward the fence, makes the catch, and then hurdles the fence to place himself in the seats, it's likely he will become tangled with spectators and seats. This could make it difficult to determine whether he has "fallen" or not. I was just wondering about an aisle between the seats (or maybe a walkway in front of the seats), where it would probably be easy to tell whether or not he had fallen.

When I was playing (many years ago), I asked an umpire I knew (he was soon in MLB) whether a fielder could make catch, hurdle a fence, and throw from "Row F." He said, "Yes, as long as he doesn't fall." So apparently at some point since then, MLB appended the part about the seating area.

[DG]

This question was OBR. Don't confuse OBR with FED.

In FED if you carry a caught fly ball into DBT unintentionally it is dead, award 1 base to runners. If you do it intentionally it is 2 base award. A 2001 interp also says if you carry a caught ground ball into DBT it is 2 base award whether intentional or not (go figure).

This may be where some of the confusion is coming in to this subject. It is covered in BRD.

[fitump56]

"Catch and carry" assumes that a legal catch has been made and the "carry" was inadvertent as in F can't stop momentum.


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While that rule may apply to the particular game we're officiating, it isn't "catch and carry." Drives me crazy.

When was that part about a "seating area" added? I wonder if it applies to an aisle between the seats.

It' not about where you land, but about ability to not land there.

Originally Posted by greymule

I understand that the fielder's momentum is involved, though after a catch fielders don't often enter DBT purely out of choice. But whether or not the fielder falls or remains standing is key, except apparently where there's a "seating area." This rule makes sense, because if a fielder sprints toward the fence, makes the catch, and then hurdles the fence to place himself in the seats, it's likely he will become tangled with spectators and seats. This could make it difficult to determine whether he has "fallen" or not. I was just wondering about an aisle between the seats (or maybe a walkway in front of the seats), where it would probably be easy to tell whether or not he had fallen.

Catch and carry momentum has nothing to do with standing, falling or anything else other than:

It' not about where you land, but about ability to not land there. The ablity to prevent your progress in time and distance.