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Old Mon Jul 16, 2007, 10:41pm
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I have another one for you.

I think when guys are never taught about what to do, guys get attached to things they find a purpose for. There are guys that are convinced if they do not brush off the pitcher's plate or bases, they just cannot see the play.

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I had a 1B coach get upset because he claimed his runner couldn't tell if the pitcher was on the rubber or not because it was dirty. Validation for all those who insist on sweeping it off!
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Old Mon Jul 16, 2007, 10:45pm
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I need to ask what I fear many will consider a stupid question:

What is the etymology of Smitty?
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I need to ask what I fear many will consider a stupid question:

What is the etymology of Smitty?
It's a degrading term used by those umpires who wish to make fun of brother sports officials, and by doing so believe it elevates themselves, a shallow word aimed at umpires who do not meet some moving target of "professionalism".

One thing is for certain. It labels the user of the term, usually an experienced umpire who ought to know better than to treat another Blue in such a despicable way, as a full time hypocrite.
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Old Tue Jul 17, 2007, 05:57pm
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It's a degrading term used by those who wish to make fun of, and by doing so think they believe elevates themselves, umpires who do not meet some moving target of "professionalism". In short, it's one thing for sure.

It labels the user of the term, usually an experienced umpire who ought to know better than to treat another Blue such a despicable way, as a full time hypocrite.
Thanks for putting this so succinctly. this should be a sticky.............
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Old Tue Jul 17, 2007, 06:20pm
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Thanks for putting this so succinctly. this should be a sticky.............
Just cause it made you sticky doesn't mean it should be made a sticky.
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Old Tue Jul 17, 2007, 07:18pm
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In situations like the one you describe Garth, where I THINK I saw the foot hit the bag first, I'm calling the kid out anyway. When the tag is there, I have to KNOW that the kid was safe. In this situation, the runner is OUT until otherwise proven, 100%, to be safe.
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Old Tue Jul 17, 2007, 07:28pm
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In Garth's situation, I'm calling that runner safe. That happens a lot as the skill level of the players increases. The ball beating the runner means that F2 did his job, now the player making the tag has to do his, and the runners job is to find the open lane to the base while avoiding the tag.

I have called plays like this, and it causes much commotion on the defensive side. The coach always claims there was NO WAY that runner could be safe, and I explain the tag was missed, plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by fitump56
It's a degrading term used by those who wish to make fun of other sports officials, and by doing so believe it elevates themselves, umpires who do not meet some moving target of "professionalism". In short, it's one thing for certain.

It labels the user of the term, usually an experienced umpire who ought to know better than to treat another Blue in such a despicable way, as a full time hypocrite.


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Thanks for putting this so succinctly. this should be a sticky.............
Small bow back to you, Ray.
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Old Mon Jul 16, 2007, 11:06pm
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I bet money you will not find a single reference.

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I had a 1B coach get upset because he claimed his runner couldn't tell if the pitcher was on the rubber or not because it was dirty. Validation for all those who insist on sweeping it off!
I have had coaches insist the same thing. If they want it swept off, then they need to do it themselves. That is not our job.

I have a challenge for you. Just show one reference (just one) where it says our job is to use a "plate brush" for sweeping off the plate? Just show one reference in any book that involves umpires on any level. I do not care which book, the NF, CCA, PBUC or any other book I cannot think of. When you find that reference, come back here and give the page and context of those statements.

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Old Mon Jul 16, 2007, 11:08pm
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the day a RUNNER cant figure out when Pitch gets on the RUBBER is the day he needs to QUIT! any RUNNER over 6 years OLD can tell that
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Old Mon Jul 16, 2007, 11:49pm
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Worked with a guy yesterday that started the backstop meeting with, "ok guys, this is your first and only warning: "No Arguing Judgement Calls......".

No lie.......
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Old Tue Jul 17, 2007, 12:24am
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Worked with a guy yesterday that started the backstop meeting with, "ok guys, this is your first and only warning: "No Arguing Judgement Calls......".

No lie.......
Or how about the guy that calls it the backstop meeting instead of plate conference.
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Old Tue Jul 17, 2007, 01:15am
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Or how about the guy that calls it the backstop meeting instead of plate conference.
Steven, that's a painful memory. Having called the coaches to the backstop in my newbie year.
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Old Tue Jul 17, 2007, 01:12am
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Worked with a guy yesterday that started the backstop meeting with, "ok guys, this is your first and only warning: "No Arguing Judgement Calls......".

No lie.......
Let me guess, it was the first inning and......
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Old Tue Jul 17, 2007, 01:13am
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the day a RUNNER cant figure out when Pitch gets on the RUBBER is the day he needs to QUIT! any RUNNER over 6 years OLD can tell that
Not if he can't see the rubber.
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