A rather unique question

[JFlores]

I had an adult baseball game (I was playing) and I also umpire as well. The gist of the problem is that the plate umpire was horrible (strike zone inconsistent) and I had a few choice words, I stop myself from saying anything crazy to him due to the fact his assignor has asked me to work games for his association (this particular umpire works for that association)....what should I say if I ever work games with him, especially if he remmeber the choice words i had for him.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by JFlores

I had an adult baseball game (I was playing) and I also umpire as well. The gist of the problem is that the plate umpire was horrible (strike zone inconsistent) and I had a few choice words, I stop myself from saying anything crazy to him due to the fact his assignor has asked me to work games for his association (this particular umpire works for that association)....what should I say if I ever work games with him, especially if he remmeber the choice words i had for him.

You are an umpire. You should avoid having "choice words" regardless of your umpire's abilities. You lost that right when you put on the blue. Show some respect.

If you work games with him in the future, you should apologize.

[tarheelcoach]

Since I coach and also officiate, I have worked with plenty of guys who I saw from the 'dark side'. Once, during basketball, I got my only official warning of the season, and then the next day worked with the guy who gave it to me!
I didn't apologize, just told him that I deserved it. He admitted that what I got too excited about was justified, but he kicked it. We laughed about it and moved on.
As long as your not ugly with someone, then I don't see it as a problem - just don't do anything that would cause someone to hold a grudge.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

You are an umpire. You should avoid having "choice words" regardless of your umpire's abilities. You lost that right when you put on the blue. Show some respect.

If you work games with him in the future, you should apologize.

When he's a player, he's a player. Why exactly should he be held to any different standard than any other player when he's a participant in a game?

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by JFlores

I had an adult baseball game (I was playing) and I also umpire as well. The gist of the problem is that the plate umpire was horrible (strike zone inconsistent) and I had a few choice words, I stop myself from saying anything crazy to him due to the fact his assignor has asked me to work games for his association (this particular umpire works for that association)....what should I say if I ever work games with him, especially if he remmeber the choice words i had for him.

I'm sorry?

[JFlores]

i guess karma is a b@#ch....today i was doing a freshman hs summer game, man were the fans loud, coach was annoying, and at the end of the game came close to tossing a player.

Bang bang play at the plate, I called the runner out and man I thought all hell was about to break lose...All i could do is smile, my partner said great game, you made the right calls, my strike zone needed some work (bad day it happens). In the end I tell my partners be honest with me as I am trying to get better, he told me i did good that makes me feel better.

The best part I have both of these teams in seperate games tomorrow...doesnt get better than that huh?

[bluezebra]

Originally Posted by JFlores

I had an adult baseball game (I was playing) and I also umpire as well. The gist of the problem is that the plate umpire was horrible (strike zone inconsistent) and I had a few choice words, I stop myself from saying anything crazy to him due to the fact his assignor has asked me to work games for his association (this particular umpire works for that association)....what should I say if I ever work games with him, especially if he remmeber the choice words i had for him.

I would ask the assignor not to pair me with this guy.

Bob

[SAump]

Originally Posted by JFlores

I had an adult baseball game (I was playing) and I also umpire as well. The gist of the problem is that the plate umpire was horrible (strike zone inconsistent) and I had a few choice words, I stop myself from saying anything crazy to him due to the fact his assignor has asked me to work games for his association (this particular umpire works for that association)....what should I say if I ever work games with him, especially if he remembers the choice words I had for him.

If you pitch, catch or manage; you may be able to get away with some of it in the interest of doing what you needed to do for your team.
If you are a position player, you had no business saying anything. In other words, don't bring it up again.
Unless you come across as an easy/friendly character, don't say anything unless it is in response to something he asks.

[nickrego]

If you really think the guy is that bad (from your umpire point of view, not your player point of view), then don't work with him. You'll only have one mess after another to deal with.

[Rcichon]

"Hi Joe",
"Whats-up?",
"How are ya doing today?",
"Helluva game last nite eh?",
Other such mundane one-liners.

In short, have a selectively short memory.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JFlores

i guess karma is a b@#ch....toda

I tried sending an e-mail to b@#ch....toda but it said there was no such address.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

When he's a player, he's a player. Why exactly should he be held to any different standard than any other player when he's a participant in a game?

Because he knows what it's like to be on the other side of the coin, and should know better.

Because others around him know that he's an umpire... and if it's acceptable for HIM to behave this way to umpires, then it must be acceptable for THEM to behave this way.

And why is the allowing of choice words for an umpire who you don't like considered to be the "standard" by you. The standard should be much higher than it is. Players/coaches behave below the standard ... but being an umpire, he should at least be able to control himself to what's acceptable, and have a better idea than the general fan of what is acceptable.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

I would ask the assignor not to pair me with this guy.

Bob

Why? Because you asked for honest feedback and got it?

[bluezebra]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Why? Because you asked for honest feedback and got it?

What honest feedback? The original poster stated the guy had a horrible strike zone, and that they exchanged a few choice words. I saw NOTHING that mentioned feedback.

He also mentioned that he was asked to work some games for the association that umpire was a member of. I replied that If it were me, I would tell the assignor I didn't want to work with that person.

Once more. Where did I, or the original poster, mention 'honest feedback'?

Bob

[aceholleran]

I'm with Fronny and BlueZ on this. JF is a player, and PU is, well, PU. I'd gift him some "choice words" too. And then totally narc on him to the assignor.

Here's my "blue line" (and I don't play anymore):

• I support my partners to the hilt (unless they botch a rule)--before, after and during a game
• I don't say a peep when I'm in the stands and anybody from my association is working, or I have any remote connection with the game
• If it's a pro or stadium game, I will toss a barb at an ump I feel is incompetent, without any of the 3 P's.

Perhaps I wouldn't have chirped to the ump in JF's place. But I sure would have gone to the assignor.

I worked with a Smitty-in-waiting whom I thought did an absolutely horrendous plate job the other day. I called the UIC that day and threw pard under the bus.

Ace Ratowski