I Guess I Deserved it, or Maybe Not.....

Yes, I have ejected spectators. Never an umpire spectator taking jabs at me, but ones who have used profanity towards people on the field, or threats towards people on the field, or taunting players.

In a case like this, I would make sure you were gone if you made comments again. That is big time bush league.

Coming here and talking smack about him is almost as low. He is not here of course to defend himself, and tell HIS version of events. So, we have to take the word of a fellow umpire who yells crappy things to other umpires during games they do then comes on a BBS to talk more smack about them.

Sorry, I lost ANY respect for you I might have had before. You certainly deserve what you have got out of all of this.

[Rich]

It's easy to dump on Tim. How about the lack of respect the umpire involved clearly gives the game?

The tread wasn't about that. Seemingly, it was about ragging on that ump.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

It's easy to dump on Tim. How about the lack of respect the umpire involved clearly gives the game?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

And.....an admittedly biased account by an admittedly biased parent doesn't make it right either.

I can understand an umpire misinterpreting a rule. That can be fixed without publicly sticking a knife in his back however.

I'd like to hear the other umpire's story though. Personally, I give zero credibility to fanboys. Especially fanboys that should know better.

JMO.......

[Rcichon]

Confront a spectator? That's worse than being a rat.

What a smitty. I wouldnt let him Umpire T-Ball.

On second thought.........


btw...Thanks rei: one more to ignore...

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by rei

Yes, I have ejected spectators. Never an umpire spectator taking jabs at me, but ones who have used profanity towards people on the field, or threats towards people on the field, or taunting players.

Tim did none of these things. I think umpires who care what the fans think are bush league.

Originally Posted by rei

In a case like this, I would make sure you were gone if you made comments again. That is big time bush league.

How would you make sure a fan is gone for making comments? When did it become against the rules to holler at an umpire? If you did that, you must have extremely thin skin. When you put on a uniform, you are supposed to let that stuff roll off you like water off a duck's back.

Originally Posted by rei

Coming here and talking smack about him is almost as low.

I didn't see any smack talk here. He was telling on himself, regretting having opened his mouth against a brother-umpire two years prior. If anything, you should commend Tim for owning up to doing such a thing, and opening himself up to all kinds of criticism.

For the umpire to have that long of a memory, while at the same time being clueless about the rules, tells me all I need to know about this Smitty to start with. I sure wouldn't want to work with someone who doesn't know the most rudimentary rules like what foot to step off with, or that the pitcher has to come to a stop.

While it was wrong of Tim to do what he did two years ago, I find it far more offensive that this incompetent umpire felt it necessary to seek out a fan who paid his nothing to get in, and threaten him. Major Bush League.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Major Bush League.

There is nothing more unprofessional than any sports official sitting in the stands and publicly criticizing one of his supposedly fellow officials. It doesn't matter how badly the official blew a call either. There is simply NO excuse for doing so.

It's called "back-stabbing".

I've seen dozens of different "Code of Ethics" printed for various sports and sports officials. One thing that they all have in common is some kind of clause stating that you don't crap on your fellow officials in public.

Missed calls or bad officiating happens some times. There are sub-par officials in all sports. What your buddy did though was inexcusable.

[lawump]

You say that it was bad on the umpire's part to bring it up two years later...but is it possible that he brought it up because he knew you were an umpire? In otherwords is it possible that he would have forgotten all about the incident if you were just a "fan"...but because you are an umpire he remembered it for all those months?

Frankly, I have no sympathy at all for you. You did deserve it. As President of my association, if an umpire called me and told me that another association member yelled at him on the field...there would be serious consequences. To me, that's as egregious a "sin" as any in the umpiring profession.

I have (and will again, I'm sure) reemed out members of the association for yelling at umpires while attending a game as a fan. That behavior is remembered by me for a long time...especially when its time to send names to the state office for playoff games.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by rei

Yes, I have ejected spectators. Never an umpire spectator taking jabs at me, but ones who have used profanity towards people on the field, or threats towards people on the field, or taunting players.

In a case like this, I would make sure you were gone if you made comments again. That is big time bush league.

Coming here and talking smack about him is almost as low. He is not here of course to defend himself, and tell HIS version of events. So, we have to take the word of a fellow umpire who yells crappy things to other umpires during games they do then comes on a BBS to talk more smack about them.

Sorry, I lost ANY respect for you I might have had before. You certainly deserve what you have got out of all of this.

And you lost all of OUR respect by saying you'd eject a fan for something that happened 2 years ago - however bad that thing was 2 years ago.

Originally Posted by mcrowder

And you lost all of OUR respect by saying you'd eject a fan for something that happened 2 years ago - however bad that thing was 2 years ago.

Maybe so, but I KNOW I would do the right thing!