I Guess I Deserved it, or Maybe Not.....

[BigUmp56]

What was really bad, Steve, was that he allowed the opposing pitcher tonight to continually pitch from the set without even a hint of a stop or discernable pause. I alerted Matt's coach to it and he went out and asked him why between innings. This mope told my son's coach that he doesn't have to stop or pause as long as he changes direction. I didn't say anything more though.


Tim.

[bossman72]

You shouldn't yell at or criticize officials if you're a spectator at the game under ANY circumstances. He's your fellow blue out there and that isn't the way you should be conducting yourself. You know how tough it is out there.

In the future, talk to him after the game and give him some advice in a kind way if he's obvously ignorant of the pitching regulations as you've said.

But on a side note, what he did recently to you is crap- i agree.

[jxt127]

F1 tonight was doing that - stepping off with his free foot then throwing to 1st.

Of course that wasn't as good as the PU calling Batter Interference on the batter for not ducking (batter just froze like he was taught) when F2 tried to throw over him to third base. Was comical really cause the Batter was at least a foot taller than F2.

Silly of ump really, personally I can't remember who said what two nights ago let alone two years ago.

[HokieUmp]

Originally Posted by bossman72

You shouldn't yell at or criticize officials if you're a spectator at the game under ANY circumstances. He's your fellow blue out there and that isn't the way you should be conducting yourself. You know how tough it is out there.

In the future, talk to him after the game and give him some advice in a kind way if he's obvously ignorant of the pitching regulations as you've said.

But on a side note, what he did recently to you is crap- i agree.

It might BE crap, but Tim has to eat that second encounter completely. To reply to the thread title, yeah, you pretty much did deserve that. Whenever I've had any training, wherever I've been, when that subject comes up, the gist of it is, 'you don't throw fellow umpires under the bus, on or off field.' Once we've become umpires, we've sort of lost the ability to comment at a game - at least at the games we generally discuss here.

Yeah, the guy sounds terrible, but SOMEone at that game is going to know you're an umpire, so the original comment was a bad idea. He had the right to give a face full in return, even if the statute of limitations had run out.

[TussAgee11]

Agree with HokieUmp, he was out of line for bringing it back up, but if I were him, I'd be pretty pissed at you, even after 2 years. I can forget what parents say, but you are held to a much higher standard. What differentiates you from a rat coach? Not much in this situation.

When you're a spectator, you're a spectator. Watch the game, enjoy your son, and don't do anything but cheer. Because of what you said 2 years ago all other parents around you must think its okay for them to say the same to the next umpire in the next game because you acted that way. So now you not only caused problems for that original umpire, but potentially for every other umpire that has had to work your son's team.

Yes, it's crap that the umpire came up to you 2 years later, but frankly, you should have said said nothing (aloud during the game anyway) two years ago in the first place.

-Tuss

[briancurtin]

As an umpire, I couldn't tell you what fan said what if you gave me a 2 person lineup and one of them was Fran Drescher and one of them was a dad wearing a baseball hat. I don't know who said what and I usually couldn't care less what recycled lines the fans are spewing...mainly because I have things to do while on the baseball field.
It's odd to me that not only he knew you said what you said, but he also remembered the whole thing to act on it later.

As a fan, I keep to myself.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I alerted Matt's coach to it and he went out and asked him why between innings. This mope told my son's coach that he doesn't have to stop or pause as long as he changes direction. I didn't say anything more though.

That's about as unprofessional as any sports official can get.

What's worse? A mope or a backstabber?

Unbelievable.....

[Blue37]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That's about as unprofessional as any sports official can get.

What's worse? A mope or a backstabber?

Unbelievable.....

Interesting. I would not have a problem with a parent/umpire quietly informing a coach of a possible rule misapplication, if it was correctable. My ego is not such to prevent me from wanting to get it right, and I am not concerned about the source of the correction, as long as it is done discretely. If it was not correctable, I would expect the umpire/dad to wait until the game is over and approach me in private to discuss the situation.