"But I Teach That Move"

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Forest Ump

I was describing someone from eastern asia.

That is not what it means. Oriental means "east of" and was introduced in language to refer to land areas east of Europe. It referred to Turkey, Persia and all points east. It lumped together people from numerous countries and unrelated ethnic backgrounds.

Since the 1970's most educated people have known how to refer to people of Asia or specific countries within Asia far more accurately and with sensitivity to their true ethnicity.

[Forest Ump]

Originally Posted by GarthB

That is not what it means. Oriental means "east of" and was introduced in language to refer to land areas east of Europe. It referred to Turkey, Persia and all points east. It lumped together people from numerous countries and unrelated ethnic backgrounds.

I think you are right about this Garth. I went down to the family room and flipped over the oriental rug. I was expecting to see "Made in China" on the tag. Guess what it said....."Made in Persia." How about that.

[bob jenkins]

"The last name is Smith. S as in 'Sam'. M as in 'Mary'. I as in 'Native American'..."

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by GarthB

That is not what it means. Oriental means "east of" and was introduced in language to refer to land areas east of Europe.

If I go east of Europe, I find...USA. And China. And your house.

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Bob has warned us, "watch the politcal stuff."

Then why fan the flames, boyo?

On Topic, Who cares how MLB does it? Breaking a rule is breaking a rule. And Nomo never completely paused for a lengthy amount of time, his motion just slowed considerably.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

Then why fan the flames, boyo?

Yes, why, eh?

On Topic, Who cares how MLB does it? Breaking a rule is breaking a rule. And Nomo never completely paused for a lengthy amount of time, his motion just slowed considerably.

Bzzzt, incorrect. I saw him stop with only his hands moving, several times, complete body freeze. I thought this was interesting, no call. Being in Milwaukee on the invite of a former college teammate, the HC at that time, I walked down the ramps, past security, to join up with my friend. Here comes the crew. Knowing that they had no idea who I was, I introduced myself including as an umpire. Bell PU, HIrschbeck, Froemming, ???. They didn't want to talk so "OK", never got to hear why no balk.