Consensus for an unbelieving offspring, please

[JeremyByrd]

I'm going to have to go with the 14 year old...
F1 starts with one hand at his side and the glove in front. F1 may move his right hand into his glove. This movement does not require him to pitch.

[LakeErieUmp]

True, Jeremy, but that's not the kind of anything I was referring to. I basically meant once the pitcher is in the windup and gathers his hands.

[JeremyByrd]

We agree, then. Be careful though, if you teach him too much he might know more than his coach!

[bossman72]

obviously watch for the pivot foot disengaging also, but that's a no-brainer

[BigUmp56]

Every season I see a couple of pitchers who know how to legally step back from the windup with their pivot foot without showing a concurrent motion to pitch with their hands, and pick off a runner. It's a thing of beauty when done correctly, although it always brings an interesting exchange with the offensive manager that wan'ts a balk called.


Tim.

[johnnyg08]

If you go with what you're saying in the literal sense...a runner can go whenever he wants...wind or stretch position...neither position is "granting permission" to go...the pitcher can still pick off from the wind position...1 fliud motion to the base is all he needs to do here.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

It's more than a myth, it's a balk. He can't pick a runner off from the windup. Only the windup position.

BTW-What kind word is wan'ts

OBR

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Legal pitching delivery.


From the Windup Position, the pitcher may:
(1) deliver the ball to the batter, or
(2) step and throw to a base in an attempt to pick-off a runner, or
(3) disengage the rubber (if he does he must drop his hand to his sides).