Critique, Please

[SanDiegoSteve]

Well, I see there is no reasoning with you about this, so I am done. You are going to spin this your way because you must be a Cubs fan. I don't believe that Young was trying to hit Lee. That is my position. You can tell a lot by a pitchers initial reaction, and Young clearly was not throwing at Lee. If you look at Lilly's initial reaction after hitting Renteria, you can tell there was no regret whatsoever.

Young, on the other hand, was upset that he had hit a batter. It was in the fourth inning, a 0-0 score, and he had not allowed a base runner. Do you realize what a perfecto or a no-no would mean to the city of San Diego? They have not had one in their 38 year history.

Young wants nothing more than to be the first Padre with a no-hitter or perfect game. He wasn't going to jeopardize this for a stupid retaliation, I don't care what veiled threat Peavy allegedly made. Peavy is a hot-head like Zambrano. Chris Young is actually a very level headed young man with a boat load of class.

[SanDiegoSteve]

CraigD, sorry about the thread hijack. It's just easier than starting a new thread. Hope you don't mind too much.

[lawump]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Well, I see there is no reasoning with you about this, so I am done. You are going to spin this your way because you must be a Cubs fan.

To be fair, SDS, in a prior post in this thread you did write,

"Our starter gets run" (emphasis added). (You did not write "San Diego's starter gets run" or "The Padres' starter gets run". You used "our..."

While I'm not trying to get in the middle of this discussion back-and-forth, can it be that TWO posters are seeing this incident through lenses tinted with their team's colors, rather than with their umpire's lenses?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by lawump

To be fair, SDS, in a prior post in this thread you did write,

"Our starter gets run" (emphasis added). (You did not write "San Diego's starter gets run" or "The Padres' starter gets run". You used "our..."

While I'm not trying to get in the middle of this discussion back-and-forth, can it be that TWO posters are seeing this incident through lenses tinted with their team's colors, rather than with their umpire's lenses?

Absolutely. My glasses are tinted a bit blue and sand. But I do feel objectively that Young was genuinely upset that he had hit a batter for the game's first baserunner.

[lawump]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Absolutely. My glasses are tinted a bit blue and sand. But I do feel objectively that Young was genuinely upset that he had hit a batter for the game's first baserunner.

I'm glad you admit it, seriously. You should be commended.

Better "blue and sand" than those horrible camo's they where once a year. (And, yes, I know why they wear them, my brother did his military training in your neck of the woods.)

[Don Mueller]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Well, I see there is no reasoning with you about this,

In other words if I don't see it your way I'm unreasonable. I understand, I feel the same way

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

so I am done. You are going to spin this your way because you must be a Cubs fan.

I'm glad you're done because it's getting harder and harder to get in the last word

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Don Mueller

In other words if I don't see it your way I'm unreasonable. I understand, I feel the same way




I'm glad you're done because it's getting harder and harder to get in the last word

Well, it was nice to see that the front office found Young just as complicit as Lee in this fray. 5 games for both........

Tim.