Two different plays .. what is called??

[waltjp]

Sit 1 -

You're correct, R1 is out. B/R to first, R2 remains at 2B.

Think of this situation - bases loaded. Batter grounds a ball toward F6. R2 is hit with the batted ball while passing in front of F6. The ball is dead, R2 is out.
B/R to first base.
R1 is forced to advance to second base because the B/R is awarded first base. R3 returns to third.

Sit 2 -
If the umpire judges the interference to be intentional he could declare the batter out and complete the double play. R1 would return to first base if the inning is to continue.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Sit 2 -
If the umpire judges the interference to be intentional he could declare the batter out and complete the double play. R1 would return to first base if the inning is to continue.

Not under OBR he is. DP interference outs would be declared only in situations where it's an "obvious and imminent" double play, intent notwithstanding, meaning the double play itself must be both obvious and imminent. That's why the DP is called in the Force Play Slide Rule situation in NCAA, for example.

I can't see how in Sit. 2 of the OP's comments one could justify ruling a double play. If F6 is trying to field a ball and R2 runs into him, we've got a simple interference: R2 is out, ball's dead, R1 is moved to second due to the batter being awarded first base.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Not under OBR he is. DP interference outs would be declared only in situations where it's an "obvious and imminent" double play, intent notwithstanding, meaning the double play itself must be both obvious and imminent. That's why the DP is called in the Force Play Slide Rule situation in NCAA, for example.

I can't see how in Sit. 2 of the OP's comments one could justify ruling a double play. If F6 is trying to field a ball and R2 runs into him, we've got a simple interference: R2 is out, ball's dead, R1 is moved to second due to the batter being awarded first base.

I can easily see this being a DP - but not on BR, on R1 - R1 is far enough off the base when R2 crashes into a fielder about to catch the ball (OP didn't say "fielding a grounder", it said, "Making a catch"), R1 is a dead duck. DP - R2 out, R1 out, BR to first.

[UMP25]

It is a bit unclear as to whether it was a fly ball or ground ball. However, that doesn't mean it's an automatic DP.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by UMP25

It is a bit unclear as to whether it was a fly ball or ground ball. However, that doesn't mean it's an automatic DP.

No ... definitely not automatic, and I didn't mean to imply that. Just saying that it's not automatically WRONG, which is what I took, "I can't see how in Sit. 2 of the OP's comments one could justify ruling a double play., to mean.

I can definitely see an umpire judging this one either way, depending on where everyone is when the INT happened.