Can't find the ball!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by PABlue

You've got to be kidding me!!!! Are they going to take away the ejections and any penalties that would have happened for the coaches. What a nutso move. I can't say that I haven't seen just as stupid stuff happen around here. One team pitched a illegal pitcher in a Cal Ripken game here and now they are just going to have them replay the game instead of the forefit being given. If you have rules why not follow them?!!!!!!?

I wonder how they'll play without any umpires. I certainly wouldn't go back and finish it.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Xtopher, you need to show them this thread and let them know that they are making the wrong decision here.

To restart a forfeited game is a miscarriage of justice, as is putting the runner who legally scored back at second base.

The coaches agreed to the playability of the field when no mention of the tall grass was made when going over the ground rules.

The umpires who worked this game should refuse to rework this game, and the association they work for should refuse to furnish umpires to do the game as well.

It's BS like this that gives all of kiddie ball a bad name, and makes it difficult to find competent officials to do their games.

[LMan]

kiddie ball....competent umpires? I keed

I watched my youngest son's coach-pitch game last night. They had a LL-certified umpire 'calling' from behind the mound. I knew he was good, because he wore a ball bag out there......hanging directly over his front beltbuckle like a loincloth.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by LMan

kiddie ball....competent umpires? I keed

I watched my youngest son's coach-pitch game last night. They had a LL-certified umpire 'calling' from behind the mound. I knew he was good, because he wore a ball bag out there......hanging directly over his front beltbuckle like a loincloth.

Did he do Lance's patented Hop, Skip and Jump move to cover the plate?

[Rcichon]

Wow. I keep learning WHY everyone (ok, not everyone but many) disdaines LL.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by Rcichon

Wow. I keep learning WHY everyone (ok, not everyone but many) disdaines LL.

Yup. Either all these fantastic stories are lies, or these umpires repeatedly agree to be beaten like rented mules by coaches and administrators, and wonder why they are treated like dirt. I don't think there's a whole lot of value in giving advice here---they know its wrong, we tell them its wrong (even thought they knew it at the time, and when they posted), but they'll go right back to the field and let coaches pull this sh!t over and over like a battered wife returning to her husband.

Just like Oprah sez, baby, you gotta be willing to walk away, no regrets.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by LMan

Yup. Either all these fantastic stories are lies, or these umpires repeatedly agree to be beaten like rented mules by coaches and administrators, and wonder why they are treated like dirt. I don't think there's a whole lot of value in giving advice here---they know its wrong, we tell them its wrong (even thought they knew it at the time, and when they posted), but they'll go right back to the field and let coaches pull this sh!t over and over like a battered wife returning to her husband.

Just like Oprah sez, baby, you gotta be willing to walk away, no regrets.

In my sordid past, I served as the trainer and assignor of umpires for the local PONY folks. They hadn't had anyone other that a coach doing the job for years and some on the board thought it might be a good idea to bring in someone with umpiring experience.

I worked for them for four years and increased the number of umpires from 18 to 46, all of whom attended 12 training sessions annually and passed three rules tests.

The last season I was affiliated with them a coach bumped and knocked down one of my umpires. I went to the board and demanded some disciplinary action. The good ol' boys on the board decided that the ejection from the game was enough and one even said that the umpiire probably deserved it. I appealed their decision.

The next week, while I was evaluating umpires at a tournament, a coach bumped an umpire and then spit in his face. Knowing the support I'd get from the board, we called the police. The coach was arrested for fourth degree assualt and was later convicted. He lost his school coaching job, but the PONY board kept him on.

After my appeal to the board of the first incident was denied, I walked away. I told them I could not in good conscience assign umpires to games in which their safety was in question and in which they would have no support.

Life is to short to work with a$$holes.

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by LMan

kiddie ball....competent umpires? I keed

I watched my youngest son's coach-pitch game last night. They had a LL-certified umpire 'calling' from behind the mound. I knew he was good, because he wore a ball bag out there......hanging directly over his front beltbuckle like a loincloth.

But did he use his plate brush to clean the rubber between innings ???

[LMan]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

But did he use his plate brush to clean the rubber between innings ???

I'm not sure he knew what a pitcher's plate was. He did scream, "FOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWLBAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWLLLL!" on every foul, no matter where it was, though.

I'm done on 'coach spit in my face, should I rescind his ejection?' posts, however.