Base left too soon.

[charliej47]

Rich, it is always "time of release". look at 7.05(g) APPROVED RULING:

IT is always the time-of-play, time-of-release, time-of-pitch, time-of-touch that determines what happens.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by charliej47

Rich, it is always "time of release". look at 7.05(g) APPROVED RULING:

IT is always the time-of-play, time-of-release, time-of-pitch, time-of-touch that determines what happens.

"Charlie" it is, then.

[charliej47]

The runner can be standing on 3rd base. and F6 throws the ball out of play while throwing it to F3. If the runner goes back and touches 1st base and I award him 2 bases on the over-throw. there is still nothing. Let's play 7.05(i)

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by charliej47

Rich, it is always "time of release". look at 7.05(g) APPROVED RULING:

IT is always the time-of-play, time-of-release, time-of-pitch, time-of-touch that determines what happens.

Nice try Charlie - wrong rule.

7.10(b) APPROVED RULING: (2) When the ball is dead, no runner may return to touch a missed base or one he has left after he has advanced to and touched a base beyond the missed base.


"When the ball is dead . . " . When does it become dead? When it enters DBT.

[charliej47]

Sorry I got carried away, that is true about my comment of him standing on 3rd or having touched second. Once he touches 2nd, even if he goes back, he would be subject to appeal, but it would still be "time-of-release" that determines when the ball goes out of play.

[charliej47]

Once the ball is dead. this will be determined when it "goes out of play" the determination will be determined from the "time of release" no runner can advance. So, he can not touch 2nd even if he does and goes all the way to 3rd that was what I was trying to say.

I would had said "Dead ball 2-base award". Now if the coach sent him back to 1st for the re-touch, it would have been a smart coach. Anything else, I would have waited for an appeal or the next pitch. Let's play.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by charliej47

Once the ball is dead. this will be determined when it "goes out of play" the determination will be determined from the "time of release" no runner can advance. So, he can not touch 2nd even if he does and goes all the way to 3rd that was what I was trying to say.

Are you from Canada?

[Carl Cramer]

So at the moment the ball goes into DBT, please tell me what the Base Ump is supposed to signal and what should he say to the runner.

For example, does he point to the runner and say, "You....third base!" and point to third?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Carl Cramer

So at the moment the ball goes into DBT, please tell me what the Base Ump is supposed to signal and what should he say to the runner.

For example, does he point to the runner and say, "You....third base!" and point to third?

I have heard to say, "You are awarded third base." This avoids the "telling him how to run" nature of the "You ... third base" comment."

I have also used the "You are awarded two bases" comment.