I took your advice...

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Those were my thoughts 100% (except for the fact that at the time, I didn't fix the play)...I was not 100% sure that it hit him from where I was...That being said, I was 99.99999% sure but I did not want to kill a live ball...but PU was 3 feet away from him...

I have no problem with you *not* killing the play whent he ball hit the batter. If you had killed it and this had been the .00001% of the time that the ball didn't hit him, you would have had a tougher decision.

Once PU called the batter out, though, then you know that the ball hit the batter (or, at least, was ruled such). Then, you should have put R1 back on first.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Once PU called the batter out, though, then you know that the ball hit the batter (or, at least, was ruled such).

Actually ... he doesn't know that at all. Batter was out for striking out (and can't advance with a runner on 1st). The out had nothing to do with whether the ball hit the batter or not.

But I do agree that if he was in doubt, and thought the ball had hit the batter, he should go check with PU and then have PU send the runner back due to the dead ball.

[johnnyg08]

all great points fellas...fortunately there wasn't any rhubarb in this game...but to a couple points on here...I'm not going to kill a play (in this sitch) unless I am 100% sure that a pitched ball hit the batter...I'm too far away (approx 100 ft from home) to be 99% sure and kill the play...PU...if he can't see it...can certainly hear if the ball hit him...we could've handled this differently, I agree...but everything worked out so fortunately it's not a big deal

[BoomerSooner]

My thought on something like this is that from the bases I might be missing something (angle, distance, other factors). I'm going to let the play continue and then make sure to come in and talk to my PU to let him know what I saw. If I'm 100% sure the ball hit the batter, I'm going to say so and then we'll rectify accordingly, but if he says he's 100% sure it didn't I'm letting him take the call and we don't have to explain to a coach why I've killed a play that could have put his runner on 2B when the ball didn't hit the batter. I've never had a coach throw too big a fuss over returning runners on any dead ball situation where play was allowed to continue (maybe a fuss about whether or not the ball should have been dead, but thats a different discussion). Its the other way around that can get pretty loud.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Actually ... he doesn't know that at all. Batter was out for striking out (and can't advance with a runner on 1st). The out had nothing to do with whether the ball hit the batter or not.

Doh!

IAAFI.

[RPatrino]

To sum it up, as BU if you see a pitched ball hit the batter, kill the play. If you don't see it, don't kill it. We can't guess. After play stops, then you can sort out the details.