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bossman72 Sun May 13, 2007 10:31pm

Arnold,

they all deserved it. that's a shame that behavior was in a 15yo game...

Shmuelg Mon May 14, 2007 05:04am

Ohmygawd, what horrible behaviour on the part of the players.

Makes me appreciate the behaviour we have here in Israel on the part of both baseball and softball players.

Shmuel

greymule Mon May 14, 2007 07:31am

On the type of ejections you describe, I usually kick them out of the park, too. In fact, in some SP leagues around here, an ejection requires that the offender leave the premises. Did you let these guys hang around?

Arnold A. Mon May 14, 2007 08:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by greymule
On the type of ejections you describe, I usually kick them out of the park, too. In fact, in some SP leagues around here, an ejection requires that the offender leave the premises. Did you let these guys hang around?

I learned later one player left the park area, while the two coaches and three players stayed behind an equipment shed behind the concessions stand well out of my sightlines.

The game was not going to be completed until I did not see them anymore.

johnnyg08 Mon May 14, 2007 08:56am

Nice job. Sucks to do...but we have to keep control of the game. Way to have some guts!

mcrowder Mon May 14, 2007 09:16am

I would have hated to have been in that situation, but you did everything right. You didn't eject anyone, you merely formalized it when they ejected themselves.

Eastshire Mon May 14, 2007 10:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigUmp56
< sarcasm > I can't believe you had all of these ejections and didn't have the courtesy to issue any warnings first! < /sarcasm >



Tim.


The real crime is that he didn't share with his partner.

johnnyg08 Mon May 14, 2007 10:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastshire
The real crime is that he didn't share with his partner.

I love the "where was his warning?" from the head rat after tossing a player...sometimes warnings are okay...but many, many other times...an ejection is just fine...I just wish more guys had the guts to toss players managers...especially in the adult leagues that I work 1 man. There are teams out there that will attempt to own you if you don't gain control by starting early in the pregame by being firm in your pregame, being on time, etc...

BigGuy Mon May 14, 2007 11:05am

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900
I think that you did what your were forced to do. Each one of them ejected themselves.

Of course there are those who will look far and wide to prove that I am incorrect in this post - right BG?

Not I, ozzy. :cool: I think Arnold did an excellent job of assisting those who asked for help to be ejected. :D

waltjp Mon May 14, 2007 12:03pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08
I love the "where was his warning?" from the head rat after tossing a player

In the past, when I've been asked about a warning, I've replied, "You want a warning? Okay, the next person who does that will also be removed."

SanDiegoSteve Mon May 14, 2007 12:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shmuelg
Ohmygawd, what horrible behaviour on the part of the players.

Makes me appreciate the behaviour we have here in Israel on the part of both baseball and softball players.

Shmuel

So, all the players in Israel are a bunch of choirboys, eh?:rolleyes:

jkumpire Mon May 14, 2007 10:26pm

Arnold A- the Sheriff
 
Nice job, you did the right thing, and I hope your local league squashes somebody over this one.

Now, in one association I used to belong to there was the Sheriff's Award competition. Some of you who know me from previous days and board know the story, so please exucse me for the repeat.

But there was a system set up where you got so many points per ejection, and the winner got a beverage at certain watering holes in the area.

I think the scale was like 5 points for a player, 10 points for a coach, 15 for the manager, 1 or 2 points for a fan, and there was another catagory or two (maybe for other sports). Bonus points also can be awarded.

So, using the scale here, Arnold A is in the lead at this pont in the season:



3B coach (adult asst.) jumps up and down screaming "What the f**k was that?" and "You're f**king horrible!". I eject him. (that's 10 for A)

On-deck batter and the manager come up to me. Manager wants to know why I ejected the coach. Asks if the coach's First Amendment rights were suspended when he walked on the field. I tell him that this conversation is done. On-deck batter says "So if I tell you that you suck, you'll throw me out?" I eject him. Manager comes back yelling that the kid was only asking me a question, I'm power mad, I'm awful, etc. I eject the manager. (That 20 more, he's up to 30)

Batter-runner walking by me on my way to right field says,"You f**king suck". I eject him. First base coach (a player) calls me a cheating sonofa***** in Spanish on his way to the dugout. I eject him. (We'll count the 1B coach as a player, he's got 40, but that could be an appeal play in this case :D )


As I am making notes of the uniform numbers of the last two players I've dumped, The pitcher coming out to warm up says, "Must think you're a big shot now, huh". I instruct him to warm up and mind his own business. He says, "What you gonna do, Hoss, toss me?" Which I did. (Add 5 more, it's now 45)

After the game, three parents apologized to me, including the parent of the first base coach and the young man himself.
(IMO, I'd give Arnold 20 more points for all the foul language ejections and picking up the Spanish one, and 15 more points for the apologies he got)



He's got 80


Anyone close to that score yet? :D

Shmuelg Tue May 15, 2007 04:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
So, all the players in Israel are a bunch of choirboys, eh?:rolleyes:


Well, they aint' complete angels, but let's just say they can carry a tune pretty good.

I've been umping seven years and had to eject a player only ONCE, and have given no more than three warnings (for bad behaviour, that is).

The baseball guys tend to be better behaved than the softball (fastpitch) guys. Go figure.

Shmuel

RPatrino Tue May 15, 2007 04:31pm

Arn...good job!! I had an EJ on a HC, for bumping me. First time for that!! He was out of control, arguing with me, the other teams asst. coach, HC and AD. He was losing 27-2 at the time, decided to pack his team and head for the bus prior to the game being over. OK by me, I asked the AD to include that in his little notes to the commissioner.

Incidently, this coach is an ex-major league player.

greymule Tue May 15, 2007 10:42pm

Incidently, this coach is an ex-major league player.

Some of the ex-MLB players I know have a poorer concept of the rules than the average fan.


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