Six EJ's
 

Sitch:
15 yr. old Babe Ruth game, runners on 1st and 2nd, 1 out.

Single to right, R2 tries to score, my partner calls him out. R1 slips rounding third, catcher throws down, I call R1 out on the tag.

3B coach (adult asst.) jumps up and down screaming "What the f**k was that?" and "You're f**king horrible!". I eject him.

On-deck batter and the manager come up to me. Manager wants to know why I ejected the coach. Asks if the coach's First Amendment rights were suspended when he walked on the field. I tell him that this conversation is done. On-deck batter says "So if I tell you that you suck, you'll throw me out?" I eject him. Manager comes back yelling that the kid was only asking me a question, I'm power mad, I'm awful, etc. I eject the manager.

Batter-runner walking by me on my way to right field says,"You f**king suck". I eject him. First base coach (a player) calls me a cheating sonofa***** in Spanish on his way to the dugout. I eject him.

As I am making notes of the uniform numbers of the last two players I've dumped, The pitcher coming out to warm up says, "Must think you're a big shot now, huh". I instruct him to warm up and mind his own business. He says, "What you gonna do, Hoss, toss me?" Which I did.

After the game, three parents apologized to me, including the parent of the first base coach and the young man himself.

Comments? Criticisms?

You did the right thing, but the whole scene is awfully depressing. What a disgrace.

Great Job!!

Unfortunately, I am not shocked nor surprised any more at this type of behavior.

It is a general decline of graciousness and civilty of our society, in general. IMHO

Was there anybody left to coach or even play for that matter? :eek:

I think that you did what your were forced to do. Each one of them ejected themselves.

Of course there are those who will look far and wide to prove that I am incorrect in this post - right BG?

Your post was far too civilized to keep up with the usual craziness we know and love from you, ozzy. Terrible.:)

6 ej's and no forfeit? They must have brought a truckload of people......

The game ended with nine very quiet and compliant players, and one very reluctant scorebook keeper who has the title of assistant coach leading them.

The double trifecta! Well done.

Not a fun situation to be in, but each of the ejections seems justified and necessary.

It wasn't any fun. But, paraphrasing recent postings on ejections, I was trying to do my job properly so no other umpire has to clean up this "mess".

< sarcasm > I can't believe you had all of these ejections and didn't have the courtesy to issue any warnings first! < /sarcasm >



Tim.

Obviously, Arnold did not sufficienty establish that he was "in charge" at the plate meeting.

Only 6? :)

I had an adult game. Dumped two guys earlier in the game for arguing balls and strikes. Got the pitcher later for saying "f you" when I called a balk on him, but the trick was the batter hit a grand slam. LOL What ensued after that was 4 guys off the bench being dumped for profanity after a bench warning. So, 7 from the same team. They were home team and down by about 17 runs in the top of the 9th, so the forfeit was no big deal really.

Oh, and it sounds like you did the right thing! :)

Arnold,

they all deserved it. that's a shame that behavior was in a 15yo game...

Ohmygawd, what horrible behaviour on the part of the players.

Makes me appreciate the behaviour we have here in Israel on the part of both baseball and softball players.

Shmuel

On the type of ejections you describe, I usually kick them out of the park, too. In fact, in some SP leagues around here, an ejection requires that the offender leave the premises. Did you let these guys hang around?

I learned later one player left the park area, while the two coaches and three players stayed behind an equipment shed behind the concessions stand well out of my sightlines.

The game was not going to be completed until I did not see them anymore.

Nice job. Sucks to do...but we have to keep control of the game. Way to have some guts!

I would have hated to have been in that situation, but you did everything right. You didn't eject anyone, you merely formalized it when they ejected themselves.

The real crime is that he didn't share with his partner.

I love the "where was his warning?" from the head rat after tossing a player...sometimes warnings are okay...but many, many other times...an ejection is just fine...I just wish more guys had the guts to toss players managers...especially in the adult leagues that I work 1 man. There are teams out there that will attempt to own you if you don't gain control by starting early in the pregame by being firm in your pregame, being on time, etc...

Not I, ozzy. :cool: I think Arnold did an excellent job of assisting those who asked for help to be ejected. :D

In the past, when I've been asked about a warning, I've replied, "You want a warning? Okay, the next person who does that will also be removed."

So, all the players in Israel are a bunch of choirboys, eh?:rolleyes:

Arnold A- the Sheriff
 

Nice job, you did the right thing, and I hope your local league squashes somebody over this one.

Now, in one association I used to belong to there was the Sheriff's Award competition. Some of you who know me from previous days and board know the story, so please exucse me for the repeat.

But there was a system set up where you got so many points per ejection, and the winner got a beverage at certain watering holes in the area.

I think the scale was like 5 points for a player, 10 points for a coach, 15 for the manager, 1 or 2 points for a fan, and there was another catagory or two (maybe for other sports). Bonus points also can be awarded.

So, using the scale here, Arnold A is in the lead at this pont in the season:



3B coach (adult asst.) jumps up and down screaming "What the f**k was that?" and "You're f**king horrible!". I eject him. (that's 10 for A)

On-deck batter and the manager come up to me. Manager wants to know why I ejected the coach. Asks if the coach's First Amendment rights were suspended when he walked on the field. I tell him that this conversation is done. On-deck batter says "So if I tell you that you suck, you'll throw me out?" I eject him. Manager comes back yelling that the kid was only asking me a question, I'm power mad, I'm awful, etc. I eject the manager. (That 20 more, he's up to 30)

Batter-runner walking by me on my way to right field says,"You f**king suck". I eject him. First base coach (a player) calls me a cheating sonofa***** in Spanish on his way to the dugout. I eject him. (We'll count the 1B coach as a player, he's got 40, but that could be an appeal play in this case :D )


As I am making notes of the uniform numbers of the last two players I've dumped, The pitcher coming out to warm up says, "Must think you're a big shot now, huh". I instruct him to warm up and mind his own business. He says, "What you gonna do, Hoss, toss me?" Which I did. (Add 5 more, it's now 45)

After the game, three parents apologized to me, including the parent of the first base coach and the young man himself.
(IMO, I'd give Arnold 20 more points for all the foul language ejections and picking up the Spanish one, and 15 more points for the apologies he got)



He's got 80

Anyone close to that score yet? :D

Well, they aint' complete angels, but let's just say they can carry a tune pretty good.

I've been umping seven years and had to eject a player only ONCE, and have given no more than three warnings (for bad behaviour, that is).

The baseball guys tend to be better behaved than the softball (fastpitch) guys. Go figure.

Shmuel

Arn...good job!! I had an EJ on a HC, for bumping me. First time for that!! He was out of control, arguing with me, the other teams asst. coach, HC and AD. He was losing 27-2 at the time, decided to pack his team and head for the bus prior to the game being over. OK by me, I asked the AD to include that in his little notes to the commissioner.

Incidently, this coach is an ex-major league player.

Incidently, this coach is an ex-major league player.

Some of the ex-MLB players I know have a poorer concept of the rules than the average fan.

Emphasis on the prefix "ex".

1. If you do not get paid through an assignor, hopefully you got your FEE up front at the plate conference. Your thread is precisely why umpires (who do not get paid through an assignor) should get their FEES before the game even begins.

2. How many coaches were on this team? Both the manager and assistant were dumped. if there were no coaches left, then the game should have been declared a forfeit at that point.

3. A written report of this game should have been filed with your assignor and the President of this league.

4. Good job. Hopefully, the next crew will not have as bad a game as you did.
You had the guts to do what was right and not simply turn a "blind eye" and let the next crew of umpires deal with the mess. You'd be surprised how many umpires allow these types of shenanigans to go on unpunished.

Pete Booth

The problem with Bob Davidson is that he knows the balk rule a little too well. Every little ticky-tac balk that most of us ignore, he would call. That is how he earned his nicknames of "Balk-a-day Bob," and "Balkin' Bob." He never met a balk he didn't like.:)

wow. you are my hero.
keep up the good work

1. Money was in my pocket.

2. One assistant was left, reluctantly taking the reins.

3. Report by phone after the game, written report delivered the following afternoon.

4. Thank you for your kind remarks, the same to all who posted. Until recent posts here, I had never considered how my handling or mis-handling of a situation could affect those umpires who follow me. I am keenly aware of it now .