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Old Fri May 04, 2007, 10:03am
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However, I concur with Blueump that awards would be dependent on whether the coach actually affected the play.
This could be justified if, for example, a runner who (judgment) would have safely made a base - instead slowed/stopped running due to the unusual appearance of a screaming defensive coach 10 feet away in fair ground, and was subsequently tagged out
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Old Fri May 04, 2007, 10:23am
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LMan,

Exactly! That would be a perfectly proper and reasonable ruling.

And don't forget to toss the Coach when the play is over!

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Old Fri May 04, 2007, 09:36am
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ozzy,

Actually, defensive coaches are not allowed to be in LBT, notice I said LBT, not "fair" territory, when the ball is live and a play is in progress. Says so right in the rules: 3-3-1a & j. No distinction between fair & foul.

Now, if any of the offensive players reacted to the moron coach's yelling "TIME" as he stepped into fair territory, I think the umpire has a legitimate basis for treating it as Obstruction. But he still shouldn't kill the play until it's over. None of the things in Fed Rule 5 that cause the ball to become dead have happened.

Awarding the R2 (who was thrown out at 3B & probably would have been with or wothout the coach's antics) home is BS, incorrect, and protestable.

I completely agree in regard to the eject.

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Old Sun May 06, 2007, 12:36am
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Who do you think you are? Don't come off sounding like a pompous donkey by adding these words because it would complicate issues. There are many others words to choose such as, "Coach, I'll handle it," or "Coach, please return to your dugout." Don't be gving the OC advice like such a wise guy either. He will not appreciate being told to do it. If you persist in talking to coaches in this manner, you better hope they plan on playing on your field if you want to umpire there again.

The last time I heard an umpire refer to "his" field, the home coach responded with, "YOUR field? Good. Your field needs to be mowed and lined before Saturday's tournament."
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