HS Coach Strikes Umpire

[mike1989]

i would remove my mask before ejecting anyone..thats how it is taught..what a joke..i think this happened a little to fast to think about taking of a mask.
Yea, the coach did nothing Garth,,,so you would let someone touch you...you such a good umpire, we all wish to be like you.
yea , a bobble head...you look so good in your gear..we look at amazement on hoe ripped you are and how perfect you look..In fact, i bet 3/4 of you think that when the game is going on, all the fans are looking at you..lol.
No one but no one, puts there hands on me....specially in a half *** high school game...
critize, joke and examine it to death because most of you would have handled it diffrently..lol thats why your in the bigs making 100,000 of dollars..lol.
who cares what shirt color he has, what helmet he's wearing and what calls he made,,,he's working hard and some coach pushes him or turns him around.
great respect, sportsmanship and way to teach our up and coming citizens how to handle a problem....this is high school baseball...not getto ball in east l.a....you never ever touch another human being unless ya wanna fight!!!

[LMan]

Mike1989, here, this might help you. You'll thank me later.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by mike1989

i would remove my mask before ejecting anyone..thats how it is taught..what a joke..i think this happened a little to fast to think about taking of a mask.
Yea, the coach did nothing Garth,,,so you would let someone touch you...you such a good umpire, we all wish to be like you.
yea , a bobble head...you look so good in your gear..we look at amazement on hoe ripped you are and how perfect you look..In fact, i bet 3/4 of you think that when the game is going on, all the fans are looking at you..lol.
No one but no one, puts there hands on me....specially in a half *** high school game...
critize, joke and examine it to death because most of you would have handled it diffrently..lol thats why your in the bigs making 100,000 of dollars..lol.
who cares what shirt color he has, what helmet he's wearing and what calls he made,,,he's working hard and some coach pushes him or turns him around.
great respect, sportsmanship and way to teach our up and coming citizens how to handle a problem....this is high school baseball...not getto ball in east l.a....you never ever touch another human being unless ya wanna fight!!!

What the he!! are you talking about? Where did I say I'd let someone touch me? Where have I done anything but take the side of the umpire?

Before you address one my posts, try reading it first. Or perhaps even better, have someone literate read it to you.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Mike1989, is that the year you were born?

Anyway, I just saw this on the news here. They only showed the part where the umpire was getting in the coach's face, and then the head slap from the coach. They left out the original ejection, which would have been nice to see. At first I thought that the umpire had been at fault by getting in the coach's face, but now after viewing the whole thing, I can no longer take that position. Once the coach was ejected, the only thing he should have done was exit the field. Coming back and touching the umpire was not a good move on his part.

Coaches have no business laying their hands on an umpire for any reason, especially grabbing from behind. The coach is lucky he didn't get his butt kicked.

I have not to my recollection ever ejected anyone while wearing a mask or helmet. It is just more manly to not hide behind a mask when dealing with managers. The mask isn't there to make an umpire tough, it's there to protect his face from pitched baseballs only.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I have not to my recollection ever ejected anyone while wearing a mask or helmet. It is just more manly to not hide behind a mask when dealing with managers. The mask isn't there to make an umpire tough, it's there to protect his face from pitched baseballs only.

I see your point, Steve, but I see a lot of the opposite also.

I was under the impression that HSM wearers touted the fact that since the HSM had such better vision and so on, that they were freed of the requirement to take it off as often as mask-wearers do. I know a HSMer certainly would have it off for the plate meeting, but I see HSMers keep it on while making lineup changes, casual chatting with a coach b/w innings, etc, and I see them certainly keep it whilst in a rotation, etc. Traditional mask-ers obviously remove the mask for those events.

So, is it 'policy' for HSMers to only remove it when an ejection is imminent? Would this umpire have kept it on for a 'calm' discussion with the coach?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by LMan

I see your point, Steve, but I see a lot of the opposite also.

I was under the impression that HSM wearers touted the fact that since the HSM had such better vision and so on, that they were freed of the requirement to take it off as often as mask-wearers do. I know a HSMer certainly would have it off for the plate meeting, but I see HSMers keep it on while making lineup changes, casual chatting with a coach b/w innings, etc, and I see them certainly keep it whilst in a rotation, etc. Traditional mask-ers obviously remove the mask for those events.

So, is it 'policy' for HSMers to only remove it when an ejection is imminent? Would this umpire have kept it on for a 'calm' discussion with the coach?

I wore the helmet for three seasons, and making lineup changes was the only time I kept it on other than for pitches, and even then I would usually remove it. I was not above dropping it onto the grass to free up my hands, if necessary.

During play I pulled the helmet just like a mask as soon as the ball was hit (forward), and removed it during conversations, etc. I never looked at the helmet as being freed from any requirement to remove it, just for better protection.

If and when I return to umpiring, it will be with a conventional mask and 6 stitch hat.

[DG]

He moved his head back and thrust it forward. Head butt, no doubt about it. I would love to know if the ball was alive or dead when the balk was called. If it was dead the coach should have quietly protested the call.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by DG

He moved his head back and thrust it forward. Head butt, no doubt about it. I would love to know if the ball was alive or dead when the balk was called. If it was dead the coach should have quietly protested the call.

(sigh)

If you watch video of other coach/umpire arguments, you will see the same movement of the head accompanying the yelling and the body movements. For example, the old "minor league meltdown video": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDx_6...elated&search=

Check out the movement of the coach's head as he yells. If he was wearing a HSM there would be contact.

Incidental contact, no doubt about it. And, wisely, so ruled by the authorities in this case.

[outathm]

I am amazed that only one person has mentioned how far back the guy was calling balls and strikes. I imagine he did get some noise if he was calling pitches from as far back as he was.

I by no means condone the coach arguing, but if your going to get dressed up like Darth Vader you should at least be able to close the gap to the plate.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mike1989

i would remove my mask before ejecting anyone..thats how it is taught..what a joke..i think this happened a little to fast to think about taking of a mask.
Yea, the coach did nothing Garth,,,so you would let someone touch you...you such a good umpire, we all wish to be like you.
yea , a bobble head...you look so good in your gear..we look at amazement on hoe ripped you are and how perfect you look..In fact, i bet 3/4 of you think that when the game is going on, all the fans are looking at you..lol.
No one but no one, puts there hands on me....specially in a half *** high school game...
critize, joke and examine it to death because most of you would have handled it diffrently..lol thats why your in the bigs making 100,000 of dollars..lol.
who cares what shirt color he has, what helmet he's wearing and what calls he made,,,he's working hard and some coach pushes him or turns him around.
great respect, sportsmanship and way to teach our up and coming citizens how to handle a problem....this is high school baseball...not getto ball in east l.a....you never ever touch another human being unless ya wanna fight!!!

[DonInKansas]

If you're going to nitpick, how about the fact that the umpire removed his HSM with his RIGHT hand after getting bashed.....

[sri8527]

now that is freakin funny!!!