Infield Fly - F7 runs in from LF to the edge of IF

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by mook11

I have to admit that I have not done many games but...

The defense walks the bases loaded in order to create the IFF and a force at all bases...I have seen this several times...

I have never seen a defense walk the bases loaded to create an infield fly situation. I can't even imagine why someone would do so.

If the winning run is on third base with less than two outs...my friend, you haven't watched much and probably played even less baseball...why wouldn't you do that unless you have Danny Almonte pitching in at the LL World Series when he strikes everybody out. That is a widely used strategy in many baseball games...so if you have other coaching strategies out there you tell me how you'd align your defense when your team is playing defense in the bottom of the 9th inning tied 2 - 2 and B1 leads off with a triple...

I'm sure your reasons might be good...obviously this isn't the be all and end all strategy, but a very common one.

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by mook11

I have to admit that I have not done many games but...

The defense walks the bases loaded in order to create the IFF and a force at all bases...I have seen this several times...

I have never seen a defense walk the bases loaded to create an infield fly situation. I can't even imagine why someone would do so.

I'm pretty sure that you've seen this happen more than you can remember...just haven't considered that it creates the IFF rule, but just the force at all bases. I don't remember the last time IF AT ALL that I've seen where an outfielder has been positioned in the infield however.

[WayneG]

Rule 2 , Sec. 19 Infield Fly
"An infield fly is a fair fly which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, (rule does not preclude outfielders from being allowed to attempt to make the catch)....."

The way I understand it if I'm reading it correctly, the infielder must be able to make the catch with ordinary effort but the outfielder may make the actual attempt.

[Tim C]

Major Edit

Rather than be silly and argumentative I changed this post to read:

1) Can an infield fly be "uncalled"? Can my partner say: "No it is not high enough?"

Note: I do not mean when an umpire calls an infield fly in error because he either is mistaken in outs or in the placement of the runners,

2) What is the timing for the umpire to call infield fly? Every single camp, clinic, classic, academy or umpire school all say to call the infield fly when the ball reaches the apex of flight.

I really hope no one disagrees with this universal mechanic.

So,

Play Situation:

R1 and R2 with less than two out.

Infield and outfield are playing in a normal defensive set.

The day's weather is lightly overcast with little to no wind.

The Batter hits a high pop-up directly at F4.

As a well trained umpire crew you all wait until the ball reaches its highest point and two of the crew, including you the PU, correctly call "Infield Fly if Fair!"

The ball comes down and the ball is dropped by, OH NO, the Right Fielder who has run into the infield!

Please make your ruling.

I remain,

"The Notorious Thread Deleter"

T

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Tim C

GB & Johnny:

I officially give up.

Let the inmates run this site.

I remain,

"The Notorious Thread Deleter."

So Rule 2.00 is not a rule? Or the word "infielder" doesn't have a meaning in the definition? You slander me, sir, but do not back up your position.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Major Edit
Rather than be silly and argumentative I changed this post to read:

1) Can an infield fly be "uncalled"? Can my partner say: "No it is not high enough?" Note: I do not mean when an umpire calls an infield fly in error because he either is mistaken in outs or in the placement of the runners,

No. If an IFF has been called and meets the condition of ordinary effort, then it stays called. It can't be uncalled unless such call was erroneously made; such as above or 3) a bunt. Then, the defense may earn the DP.

Yes. If uncalled by either ump, it is a major mistake and an existing ruling or case play must be considered. IFF is in effect anyway. 1) The batter is out, 2) runners maintain any bases, and 3) the defense can't take advantage of DP opportunity.

Just trying to give clear info and avoid another English-only tongue-lashing over the semantics of an "uncalled" IFF rule.

Originally Posted by Tim C

2) What is the timing for the umpire to call infield fly? Every single camp, clinic, classic, academy or umpire school all say to call the infield fly when the ball reaches the apex of flight. I really hope no one disagrees with this universal mechanic.

Mechanics do change over time. I believe the mechanic is now after the ball has reached it's apex and has started on it's downward flight. I also realize how nitpicky this is being with words.

So,

Originally Posted by Tim C

Play Situation:

R1 and R2 with less than two out.

Infield and outfield are playing in a normal defensive set.

The day's weather is lightly overcast with little to no wind.

The Batter hits a high pop-up directly at F4.

As a well trained umpire crew you all wait until the ball reaches its highest point and two of the crew, including you the PU, correctly call "Infield Fly if Fair!"

The ball comes down and the ball is dropped by, OH NO, the Right Fielder who has run into the infield!

Please make your ruling.

I remain,

"The Notorious Thread Deleter"

T

I quote, "As a well trained umpire crew you all wait until the ball reaches its highest point and two of the crew, including you the PU, correctly call "Infield Fly if Fair!"

We, my partner and I, have nothing else to rule on unless a play follows or time is requested. I suppose one of us can kindly remind everyone again that the batter is out.