Overrun First on BOB

[justanotherblue]

As I recall, Evans say's he is out. Use 6.08A

.....If in advancing, the base runner thinks there is a play and he slides past the base before or after touching it he may be put out by the fielder tagging him. If he fails to touch the base to which he is entitled and attempts to advance beyond that base he may be put out by tagging him or the base he missed.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

As I recall, Evans say's he is out. Use 6.08A

.....If in advancing, the base runner thinks there is a play and he slides past the base before or after touching it he may be put out by the fielder tagging him. If he fails to touch the base to which he is entitled and attempts to advance beyond that base he may be put out by tagging him or the base he missed.

As I said, that was the JEA and MLB position prior to 2001. The JEA has not been updated and MLBUM no longer agrees with that interpretation. There is no bigger fan of Jim than me, but his opinion in this matter no longer is accepted by MLB.

Neither portion of your quote is applicable to a BOB batter/runner simply touching and overrunning first and not attempting to advance.

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by GarthB

As I said, that was the JEA and MLB position prior to 2001. The JEA has not been updated and MLBUM no longer agrees with that interpretation. There is no bigger fan of Jim than me, but his opinion in this matter no longer is accepted by MLB.

Neither portion of your quote is applicable to a BOB batter/runner simply touching and overrunning first and not attempting to advance.

As of O6 this was how he was teaching it. If you have another source, could you send me a link or send me in the direction that I can read this. Nothing personnal but I would like to be able to read and see it for myself not just hear it.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

As of O6 this was how he was teaching it. If you have another source, could you send me a link or send me in the direction that I can read this. Nothing personnal but I would like to be able to read and see it for myself not just hear it.

San Diego Steve quoted the MLB Umpire Manual.

If you have a copy of the current J/R it's in there too.

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

San Diego Steve quoted the MLB Umpire Manual.

If you have a copy of the current J/R it's in there too.

Well there ya go. My J/R is several years old and has it if he feints toward second, he's out. As for the MLBUM... I'd love to have one, how can I get my hands on one? That's the million dollar question.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

Well there ya go. My J/R is several years old and has it if he feints toward second, he's out. As for the MLBUM... I'd love to have one, how can I get my hands on one? That's the million dollar question.

An overrun and a feint to second are two different animals.

He's still out of he feints then gets tagged while off the base.

[RPatrino]

In Little ball, the standard play is to throw the ball to the F3 on a BOB. If the BR steps off 1b, or over runs 1b, the F3 tags him. Now, knowing the ball is in the F3's glove should clue the BR in to stay on the bag. In this situation, I don't have an out, the BR was not attempting to advance.

However, if he over runs 1b and just stands off the base, adjusting himself, I do have an out if he is tagged. He didn't return immediately to 1b after over running it.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

However, if he over runs 1b and just stands off the base, adjusting himself, I do have an out if he is tagged.

And if he adjusts himself more than three times, he's playing with it.

[RPatrino]

He's probably the F1 who has been slobbering all over the ball , too.