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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 04:21pm
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Batter Drops Bat During Windup
Batter on 3rd. Pitcher starts to pitch but during his windup, the batter intentionally drops his bat and stoops down to pick it up. Pitcher, confused, stops his delivery which was the desired goal.

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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 04:34pm
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You must be kidding.
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Batter on 3rd. Pitcher starts to pitch but during his windup, the batter intentionally drops his bat and stoops down to pick it up. Pitcher, confused, stops his delivery which was the desired goal.

Legal?
No, it's never legal for a batter to start out on third base.



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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 04:44pm
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No, it's never legal for a batter to start out on third base.



Tim.
Good catch. You gave it more attention than I did

I'd say use OBR 12.01(c) and runner to 2B, eject the assistant, and get a hot dog.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 05:51pm
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No, it's never legal for a batter to start out on third base.



Tim.

OOOPS.

Runner on 3rd.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 06:01pm
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How do you know the batter intentionally dropped his bat? I find this situation rather third worldly...
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 06:32pm
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cshs81,

Quote:
4.06
(a) No manager, player, substitute, coach, trainer or batboy shall at any time, whether from the bench, the coach’s box or on the playing field, or elsewhere --
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(3) Call “Time,” or employ any other word or phrase or commit any act while the ball is alive and in play for the obvious purpose of trying to make the pitcher commit a balk.
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PENALTY: The offender shall be removed from the game and shall leave the playing field, and, if a balk is made, it shall be nullified.
So, if as you say, the batter were to do this intentionally, it would not be legal.

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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 07:18pm
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cshs81,



So, if as you say, the batter were to do this intentionally, it would not be legal.

JM
Perfect. Thanks for the help.

BTW, would use this (4..06a3) for the "skunk in the outfield" play?
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 08:26pm
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Perfect. Thanks for the help.

BTW, would use this (4..06a3) for the "skunk in the outfield" play?
The skunk is legal.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2007, 07:14am
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The skunk is legal.
If you can judge intent as described in 4.06a3, why can you not apply it to the "skunk" play? Both are judgements, correct?
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2007, 07:44am
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If you can judge intent as described in 4.06a3, why can you not apply it to the "skunk" play? Both are judgements, correct?
Because the "skunk" play isn't desinged to induce a balk. It's designed to induce a play to allow R3 to score.
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