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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 10:59pm
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Who Watches the Tag Up?

1 out. R2. MLB game. Batter hits long fly ball to CF. R2 goes back to tag up.

Which up has the responsibilty for determining if he tagged properly? Would the 2nd base up have the catch/no catch responsibility?
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Old Wed Apr 11, 2007, 12:26am
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4 man mechanics, U2 has the tag up. Depending on where in CF the ball is hit, catch/no catch could be either U1 or U3, as they divide the field. If the ball is hit directly at the CF, then that would be U3's call. U2 is inside with R2 and has no fly ball coverage.
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Old Wed Apr 11, 2007, 06:50am
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1 out. R2. MLB game. Batter hits long fly ball to CF. R2 goes back to tag up.

Which up has the responsibilty for determining if he tagged properly? Would the 2nd base up have the catch/no catch responsibility?
With two man crew, BU should easily be able to see the tag with the ball hit to CF as he is looking right through the bag.

With three man crew, it would be U3 as he can easily line up the ball and runner with U2 taking the catch/no catch.

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Old Wed Apr 11, 2007, 08:04am
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With two man crew, BU should easily be able to see the tag with the ball hit to CF as he is looking right through the bag.

With three man crew, it would be U3 as he can easily line up the ball and runner with U2 taking the catch/no catch.

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David, I belive you have your coverages incorrect on 3 man. (U1 is 1st base ump and U2 is 3rd base ump). In 3 man, with a runner @ 2nd, U1 is in the B position, and U2 is in D. The fly ball would belong to U1 along with the re-touch.
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Old Wed Apr 11, 2007, 08:43am
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David, I belive you have your coverages incorrect on 3 man. (U1 is 1st base ump and U3 is 3rd base ump). In 3 man, with a runner @ 2nd, U1 is in the B position, and U3 is in D. The fly ball would belong to U1 along with the re-touch.
Unless, of course, U1 goes out. Then U3 would have the tag at second.
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Old Wed Apr 11, 2007, 08:47am
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Unless, of course, U1 goes out. Then U3 would have the tag at second.
Rich, If U1 is inside in the B position, why would he go out? I was under the impression that once your inside, your inside. So, U1 has the cone, U2 has F7 to the left field line, and plate has F9 to the right field line in 3 man.

Unless somebody has changed the mechanics and now if you start inside, you can go out?
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Old Wed Apr 11, 2007, 08:52am
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Rich, If U1 is inside in the B position, why would he go out? I was under the impression that once your inside, your inside. So, U1 has the cone, U2 has F7 to the left field line, and plate has F9 to the right field line in 3 man.

Unless somebody has changed the mechanics and now if you start inside, you can go out?
College (CCA) mechanics. Trouble ball in the cone, 3-man, the inside umpire can (and should) go out. Revert to 2 man.
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Old Wed Apr 11, 2007, 06:17pm
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1 out. R2. MLB game. Batter hits long fly ball to CF. R2 goes back to tag up.

Which up has the responsibilty for determining if he tagged properly? Would the 2nd base up have the catch/no catch responsibility?
Back to the original play. Pro mechanics.

U2 has no outfield responsibility when inside. Either U1 or U3 will go out on the fly ball.

If U1 goes out, then U2 will watch the tag at second and U3 is in position for the play at third. If the ball's to center field, then U1 should go out as it sets up the subsequent play at third better.
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