Hung out to dry 2

[drh898]

Pony. I'll check out the mechanics manual again. In first year it is difficult to take it all in and internalize it. Thanks for your comments and constructive criticisim.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by drh898

Pony. I'll check out the mechanics manual again. In first year it is difficult to take it all in and internalize it. Thanks for your comments and constructive criticisim.

If you're using the "Manual For the Two-Umpire System" put out by PBUC, you'll note that BU is in "B" with R1, R3.

As other's have noted, a fly ball to the left of the left fielder belongs to the PU. He apparently was confused when he told you he "couldn't go out." Nobody expects him to. He should line up the ball, keeping R3 in view. Then make the fair/foul, catch/no catch calls and observe R3's tag-up and be ready for a play at home.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GarthB

If you're using the "Manual For the Two-Umpire System" put out by PBUC, you'll note that BU is in "B" with R1, R3.

As other's have noted, a fly ball to the left of the left fielder belongs to the PU. He apparently was confused when he told you he "couldn't go out." Nobody expects him to. He should line up the ball, keeping R3 in view. Then make the fair/foul, catch/no catch calls and observe R3's tag-up and be ready for a play at home.

And FED mechanics put the BU in C. It doesn't really matter.

Why would a PU ever think of covering a fly ball as going out?

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

And FED mechanics put the BU in C. It doesn't really matter.

Why would a PU ever think of covering a fly ball as going out?

1. He's working OBR based PONY, not FED.

2. How would you know FED mechanics? I thought you threw the umpire manual out when you received it?

3. Why a PU would even consider "going out"? Beats the hell out of me. The sad part is it appears that he is put in a position to teach the original poster, a first year umpire. Kudos to the poster for looking for a second opinion.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GarthB

1. He's working OBR based PONY, not FED.

2. How would you know FED mechanics? I thought you threw the umpire manual out when you received it?

3. Why a PU would even consider "going out"? Beats the hell out of me. The sad part is it appears that he is put in a position to teach the original poster, a first year umpire. Kudos to the poster for looking for a second opinion.

I just knew that FED put the umpire in C. Actually, I kept this year's manual, thinking it may be the last ever. It appears I'll be able to say the same for my 2006 BRD as well.

B, C, it doesn't matter much with R1+R3. Would you actually change the side you stand on based on the rule set? I know I'm in B all the time in this setup.

I've seen umpires go out from the middle in 2-man. Amazing sight watching umpires randomly chase balls all over the outfield. In many areas of the country, the participants see that as "good hustle" instead of "idiotic umpiring."

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I just knew that FED put the umpire in C. Actually, I kept this year's manual, thinking it may be the last ever. It appears I'll be able to say the same for my 2006 BRD as well.

B, C, it doesn't matter much with R1+R3. Would you actually change the side you stand on based on the rule set? I know I'm in B all the time in this setup.

I've seen umpires go out from the middle in 2-man. Amazing sight watching umpires randomly chase balls all over the outfield. In many areas of the country, the participants see that as "good hustle" instead of "idiotic umpiring."

I wouldn't change for rule set. We use CCA for everything. I just mentioned the pro mechanics becuase I knew the poster was working PONY.

I've seen a lot of idiotic umpiring being sold as either "hustle" or "preventive umpiring." Funny thing is that some of what was described as preventive umpiring resulted in ejections. (NB:This is not to deny that there really is a time and place for real preventive umpiring.)

I don't know what happend to the 2007 BRD. Supply and demand issue? If Carl worked for the same editor I have, and didn't submit the 2007 edition, he'd have never heard the end of it.