Hung out to dry 2

[JRutledge]

Did you discuss this before the game? If this was discussed before the game, at least you know where your partner stood on this coverage. Now by all mechanics I have seen this is clearly the PU's call all the way. But when you discuss this in the pre-game before the game, then he cannot come back to you later and say you blew anything.

Peace

[LMan]

You have the "U" (or V, or whatevvah), PU has players moving toward foul line to make the catch. This is his catch all the way.

You don't 'go out'. Both you and him need to study your mechanics a little more.

[GarthB]

Just curious. What level of ball was this?

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Did you discuss this before the game? If this was discussed before the game, at least you know where your partner stood on this coverage. Now by all mechanics I have seen this is clearly the PU's call all the way. But when you discuss this in the pre-game before the game, then he cannot come back to you later and say you blew anything.

Peace

JR, with all due respect, what's to discuss? I'm not going to go over the entire 2-man mechanics manual with my partner when working a 2-man game. Because I work upper level games where my partners are expected to know what to do, I'm not going to have a mechanics clinic before the game. If they don't know and it's a game I assign, they're done with me. If it's one of my other college assignors, I'm sending said assignors a note telling them what happened.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by UMP25

JR, with all due respect, what's to discuss? I'm not going to go over the entire 2-man mechanics manual with my partner when working a 2-man game. Because I work upper level games where my partners are expected to know what to do, I'm not going to have a mechanics clinic before the game. If they don't know and it's a game I assign, they're done with me. If it's one of my other college assignors, I'm sending said assignors a note telling them what happened.

Why do you have to go over the entire manual? But you better go over some basics if you want to be on the same page. Not all umpires are on the same level of knowledge or are used to working with you or me who might do it right.

I also work some college ball and every umpire I work with at that level we go over things. It is not about knowing everything. It is about getting on the same page and not be surprised. Not everyone at the upper level has been there a long time or is taught the same things. I do not like to assume anything.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why do you have to go over the entire manual? But you better go over some basics if you want to be on the same page. Not all umpires are on the same level of knowledge or are used to working with you or me who might do it right.

I also work some college ball and every umpire I work with at that level we go over things. It is not about knowing everything. It is about getting on the same page and not be surprised. Not everyone at the upper level has been there a long time or is taught the same things. I do not like to assume anything.

Peace

I don't cover things like this in a pregame. If a plate umpire doesn't know he has the left field line ALL THE TIME in a 2-umpire system, we have bigger problems than an inadequate pregame.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I don't cover things like this in a pregame. If a plate umpire doesn't know he has the left field line ALL THE TIME in a 2-umpire system, we have bigger problems than an inadequate pregame.

I cover the "V" and simply say when who has the ball in the "tweener" situation. Some guys like to signal or voice they have the ball. I just want to know what they expect and how we will handle it. I do not work with the same people all the time and work with people of various levels of experience. Not everyone is knowledgeable about mechanics and coverage.

I am talking about it here more than I have to do when working actual games.

Peace