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In FED, once you have malicious...the ball is immediately dead the the umpire(s) place the runners...the only time you'd count the run is if the catcher is standing behind homeplate, R1 touches home and is then malicious toward the catcher...count the run...then eject for malicious...LMan is right...malicious contact supercedes obstruction..
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Runner obstruction?? If the catcher had the ball or is receiving the ball (FED) there isn't even obstruction on him.. so who had obstruction on this play..??
I'd stick to calling obstruction on the runner who gets in the shortstops way...smiles!!!
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I don't think anybody has obstruction here...based upon the situation he's describing which doesn't include enough elements of either interference or obstruction...too many assumptions to be made here to decide either way...so i this case...i got nuttin...
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Johnny, a couple of threads up, someone opined...catcher obstruction, award the runner home....
I agree, no obstruction or interference, but maybe malicious contact?
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In NCAA, if there's both obstruction and malicious contact, award the base and eject the runner.
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I don't know why but first read I was thinking a catcher just in the way, no ball coming or play immenent or anything, Don't know why, Thats why I have Catcher obs in my head. Anyway thanks for the ruling re Malicious over obs.
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As I said...you place the runners...in the case of malicious offense...you would place the runners where they belong...
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