Over throw at 1st

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Getting 2B is the correct call. The batter (and other runners) get two bases from their position at the time of the pitch when the first throw by an infielder goes out of play.

Rich,

You are rarely inaccurate, so this surprised me. You meant to say "first PLAY" rather than first throw, right?

--Rich

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Rich,

You are rarely inaccurate, so this surprised me. You meant to say "first PLAY" rather than first throw, right?

--Rich

He probably meant that, but when an infielder throws to retire a runner, the throw is the first play.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by UMP25

He probably meant that, but when an infielder throws to retire a runner, the throw is the first play.

Unless he makes a legitimate tag attempt on another runner.

I know I'm being pedantic. It's early and I haven't had any coffee.

[UMP25]

Except that no one ever mentioned a tag attempt. Now we're just making things more complicated for the lad.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Except that no one ever mentioned a tag attempt.

I do note, however, that no one has yet addressed the clear interference by the runner advancing from 2B.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by LMan

I do note, however, that no one has yet addressed the clear interference by the runner advancing from 2B.

Good point. And we've completely neglected the ball coming in from the other field, and the bucket knocked over rolling between third and home. And ... of course ... what type of shinguard PU was wearing, and how he felt about that shinguard.;

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Good point. And we've completely neglected the ball coming in from the other field, and the bucket knocked over rolling between third and home. And ... of course ... what type of shinguard PU was wearing, and how he felt about that shinguard.;

I'm more interested in knowing how the shinguard felt.

Well, this is fun, but I gots a game this afternoon and a 2 hour drive to get there.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Rich,

You are rarely inaccurate, so this surprised me. You meant to say "first PLAY" rather than first throw, right?

--Rich

Interesting observation.

In OBR the rule refers to first play, but this question was about a JV game (FED).

8-3-5 refers to the first play but the awards table (Two bases item 5) it says "first throw by an infielder . . ." so I just picked "throw".

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Interesting observation.

In OBR the rule refers to first play, but this question was about a JV game (FED).

8-3-5 refers to the first play but the awards table (Two bases item 5) it says "first throw by an infielder . . ." so I just picked "throw".

FED inconsistent? Big surprise there.

I wasn't trying to complicate the original play, either, UMP25. I just wanted to point out that once F6 lunges forward to try to tag R2 running by the award basis changes (although the actual award may very well be the same).