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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 07:52am
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Since this was a JV scrimmage I did not want to change his call as I was on the plate but I believe he should have gotten 3rd since he beat the throw.

It doesnt matter if it was a scrimmage or not, its not your place to change his call....
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 07:58am
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Well I just looked it up and yes it's TOP for the first play by infielder ( I do know this ), And I didn't say it was right as I would NEVER attemp to change a call without being asked first by my partner. Good thing as I was wroung. But off the top of my head for some reason I was thinking that since he beat the throw that it changed things but I was wroung.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 08:50am
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Since this was a JV scrimmage I did not want to change his call as I was on the plate but I believe he should have gotten 3rd since he beat the throw.

It doesnt matter if it was a scrimmage or not, its not your place to change his call....
As this is a rules application issue, not a judgement call, I think you have a duty to get together with your partner and straighten it out. Correctly applying the rules is a duty of both umpires and is not "overruling" your partners call.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 09:23am
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As this is a rules application issue, not a judgement call, I think you have a duty to get together with your partner and straighten it out.
However, in this case, it's just as well that he didn't, or the result could have been changing a correct ruling to an incorrect ruling.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 09:46am
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Since this was a JV scrimmage I did not want to change his call as I was on the plate but I believe he should have gotten 3rd since he beat the throw.

It doesnt matter if it was a scrimmage or not, its not your place to change his call....
NO!

We should never jump in on partner's judgement calls, as has been noted here numerous times.

But if partner is misapplying a rule (he wasn't here, but imagine if OP was the BU and a guy who knew the rule was PU), you MUST correct the situation. A base award like this sitch IS a rule, and if BU had given the runner 3rd, it should be corrected (the best way would be for PU to get BU together and have BU actually do the correction).
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