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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 01:38pm
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this 5 minute task (if that long) can save an umpire a possible lawsuit should something happen because someone got injured using faulty equipment.
In football, we check the players to ensure that they are wearing the proper pads. In basketball, we check the players to ensure that they are not wearing any unsafe or illegal equipment. It's a safety and liability issue. It also ain't a big deal.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 03:07pm
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Hi Jurassic

On a different note

This must be your time of year. A lot of controversy surrounding not only the BIG DANCE but the Conference Championships as well especially the Nevada Coach.

Give it to me straight

Was the Foul Committed by Oden of the Buckeyes against Xavier Flagrant?

Also, would you have suspended the Nevada Coach for at least one game during the March Madness tournament after his attacks on the official working his game.

If these issues were discussed on the basketball Forum please direct me to the appropriate thread(s) and I will check it out

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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 04:42pm
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Hi Jurassic

On a different note

This must be your time of year. A lot of controversy surrounding not only the BIG DANCE but the Conference Championships as well especially the Nevada Coach.

Give it to me straight

Was the Foul Committed by Oden of the Buckeyes against Xavier Flagrant?

Also, would you have suspended the Nevada Coach for at least one game during the March Madness tournament after his attacks on the official working his game.

If these issues were discussed on the basketball Forum please direct me to the appropriate thread(s) and I will check it out

Thanks

Pete Booth

Pete:

I do not think JR will mind if I jump in here and answer your question concerning the foul by Oden, espcially since I am an Ohio State University fan. No, it was not a flagrant personal foul, BUT it was an intentional personal foul. I was disappointed that the officials only called it a common (a personal foul that is neither flagrant nor intentional nor committed against a player in the act of shooting) foul. It was an ugly looking incident that cast an unfavorable light on OSU sports and in this case could very well affected the outcome of the game.

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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 05:24pm
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1)Was the Foul Committed by Oden of the Buckeyes against Xavier Flagrant?

2) Also, would you have suspended the Nevada Coach for at least one game during the March Madness tournament after his attacks on the official working his game.
1) Pete, as MTD said, the foul wasn't flagrant. Flagrant fouls are usually reserved for fighting, an attempt to injure, or extreme unsporting behavior. They come with an automatic ejection, 2 free throws and the ball out-of-bounds. The foul that Oden committed was an intentional foul imo(and in the opinion of most other officials too). Intentional fouls are usually reserved for a lot of contact without playing the ball, which is what Oden did. The penalty for that is the same as a flagrant foul, but minus the ejection. On the play that you're talking about, the correct call imo would have been an intentional personal foul on Oden, which would have meant 2 shots for Xavier and the ball for a throw-in where the foul was committed. Here's two threads on it.
Oden Intentional Foul
More Oden Foul Talk

2) The Nevada coach is gonna get something out of it, and he sureasheck deserves it. As you can read from the thread that I'll attach, he was completely out of control. Apparently criminal charges were briefly considered, but the cop got talked out of them. Inexcusable behavior imo. My personal opinion was that more than one game was warranted.
Suspension?

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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 05:36pm
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Now that I think about it, I would almost prefer to have to do equipment checks. That gives me something to do before a game, and if my partner is really late I can simply stall for time abit with a couple extra minutes checking the equipment.

I doubt that an umpire in Baseball Ontario would get in trouble for not checking equipment if someone got hurt. It's not a policy for Minor Ball, but might be for high school.
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