Signs of Rubber

[justanotherblue]

Just for the h3ll of it.....

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Here's a question for you all.

How do you know when F1 is taking signs?

Because when you in B or C if you look you can see it

How do you know that the "signs F1 is taking off the rubber are the real signs?

Because after I've seen it, F1 steps up and pitches the ball with no further signs from the catcher


How do you know that when F1 steps on the rubber another sign or set of signs is not being given?

See answer #2

The answer is you don't know. And that is the answer that I give to the complaining coach!

The answer is I do know, and I have NEVER had a complaning coach because they don't have a clue and damn sure can't see it! Only in B or C can you see it, and ONLY if your looking for it. You shouldn't be looking for it because it only causes trouble for yourself.

As long as F1 does not step on the rubber and into to a quick pitch, he is not violating anything. OBR and NCAA is a "don't do that". FED says balk but as was previously stated, the pitching restrictions don't start until F1 intentionally contacts the rubber so there cannot be a balk.

This is FEDlandia.... they say it's a balk, obviously you nor I agree with this, just as I believe most would and should ignore it. It's a rule to get your a$$ in trouble!

Yes, but for the sake of stiring the $hit pot, this IS a very VERY stupid FED rule, Why, as I stated before, because there is/was someone on the FED rules committee who doesn't understand pitching or baseball!!.. Now that I have your dander up.... will I ever call it... NO, why..BECAUSE IT IS A RULE THAT ONLY CAUSES $HIT. It's a poor rule and as you stated, if he isn't quick pitching who really cares. NOT ME!!

Most important, go back and read my first 5 lines of this post!

Go back and read mine

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

Just for the h3ll of it.....
Go back and read mine

Right, we are saying the same thing. I was addressing some of the others that seem to have ignored your post.

It also seems that you are a bit higher level than HS ball. I just felt that it was necessary to add that in FED, the pitching restrictions (taking signs is one of them) are not in effect until F1 intentionally contacts the rubber. Therefore, the balk penalty for the FED 6-1-1 (FED rule 6-1-1 - He shall take his sign from the catcher with his pivot foot in contact with the pitcher's plate.) is kind of a mute point. How do you penalize F1 for something when he is not restricted yet? It's just another FED mess that has never been straightened out.

Regards

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

Just for the h3ll of it.....



Go back and read mine

6-1-1 says that he shall take his sign from the catcher while on the pitcher's plate. It does not say anything, however, about what he's allowed or not allowed to do BEFORE taking the pitcher's plate. You are misinterpreting - both the written word AND the intent of the rule.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

Just for the h3ll of it.....



Go back and read mine

test test test

[bob jenkins]

Yes, I'm having the same problem.

[jkumpire]

kylejt,

Nice shot!

My point still stands. FED tries to write the rules in as simple a manner as possible so anyone can get a handle on the rules and umpire. And while that philosophy is a good one (as an instructor of new umpires IMO FED is easier to teach a newbie umpire than NCAA or OBR), it leads to problerms at times, with this rule as a prime example.

They want to have a time for F1 to be on the rubber before the time of the pitch, or coming set from a strech. Or, in other words, no quick return pitches. And what is the best way to explain it? You see their answer, for good or ill.

[SAump]

For years I would insert a hard plastic cup with rubber edges by itself into a XL jock. I often had trouble inserting and removing the cup while wearing the jock at the same time. I found myself "scratching" in public more often than others and for longer periods of time. I also felt the cup chaffing up my underside when worn over longer periods of time. Now that was an embarassing situation for this XXL old man.

Now I have discovered an easier solution to these problems. First place the cup into an old leftover jock and cut off the leg straps and waistband. Whala, now the cup will slide easily into and out of its correct position in a new jock. No more trouble with quick cup adjustments and far fewer needs to check its position in view of the ladies. The chaffing issue is also addressed. Please check this out for yourself and pass the info along to others. I use to ruin the leg straps on older $7 jocks much too often. Now I even save money because their lifetime usage has lasted much longer than normal.

[BigUmp56]

Place the bong on the floor and back away slowly!


Tim.

[Welpe]

SAUmp, Other than the word "rubber" and the subject of baseball, I'm trying to figure out how your last post is even remotely related to this topic?

[SAump]

Originally Posted by Welpe

SAUmp, Other than the word "rubber" and the subject of baseball, I'm trying to figure out how your last post is even remotely related to this topic?

I must confess. Now if the title would have read "Signs from the Rubber" I probably wouldn't have done it. I thought of starting a new thread. I thought of attaching it to the McDavid/Underarmour thread. Yet, not many people on this website want to discuss the finer points of wearing a CUP inside 2 jocks. I knew it wouldn't generate much discussion anyway, beyond the imagery. For example, "If you really wanna take good care of your boys, just follow my simple advice."

Some have discussed cutting the excess straps off the top of a brand new $60 mask before. Others have discussed cutting the upper-arm guards off a brand new $100 CP. Many have discuss cutting the metatarsal guard off a brand new pair of $120 Wilson leg guards. A few have even discussed cutting the throat padding off a brand new $150 Wilson Platinum CP. Why should I appear a little skittish about cutting the straps and waistband off an old worn out jock?

I didn't say cut the straps off a perfectly good $8 jock. I still believe it is pretty good advice and I can't remember if anyone else has suggested it before. Is anyone here gonna teach a LLer why he must wear a jock in the first place? The title did read "Signs of Rubber" and so I did what everybody else does. I simply hijacked my way onto this thread. I am sure there is a better place for it, but I am not gonna go out of my way to look.