Controlling a game

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by Thom Coste

Could you tell me, please, where this comes from?

It comes from the FED rule book.

Look at the rule dealing with a pitcher intentionally throwing close to a batter. There you will find the options that the umpire has to deal with this. The choices are either: a) eject the pitcher, if the act is judged to be intentional, or; b) warn the pitcher, if his intentions are in doubt.

I don't see anything there about warning the other team or other pitcher. So tell us, please, where did you come up with that?

[LMan]

Originally Posted by BretMan

It comes from the FED rule book.

Look at the rule dealing with a pitcher intentionally throwing close to a batter. There you will find the options that the umpire has to deal with this. The choices are either: a) eject the pitcher, if the act is judged to be intentional, or; b) warn the pitcher, if his intentions are in doubt.

I don't see anything there about warning the other team or other pitcher. So tell us, please, where did you come up with that?

Ya know, I bet the opposing team's players (offense) will make some audible commentary when F1 buzzes their batter, which qualifies for a 'remarks reflecting unfavorably upon any other person' violation to me

[Durham]

L,

I agree. Also, I would say that the Fed rule/case book do not require that you warn both teams, but I also bet that you would in no way be placing yourself into a protestable situation if you in fact issued warnings to both sides. They are just warnings, edicits that state, play nice and all will be fine, act up and well, we have to take care of it.

[lawump]

Originally Posted by LMan

Ya know, I bet the opposing team's players....

Silly LMan, there's no betting in baseball, ask Pete.

[Thom Coste]

Originally Posted by BretMan

It comes from the FED rule book.

Look at the rule dealing with a pitcher intentionally throwing close to a batter. There you will find the options that the umpire has to deal with this. The choices are either: a) eject the pitcher, if the act is judged to be intentional, or; b) warn the pitcher, if his intentions are in doubt.

I don't see anything there about warning the other team or other pitcher. So tell us, please, where did you come up with that?

I don't see anything there that prohibits me from warning the other team.

Ozzy said I "cannot warn the offense for something F1 does." I contend that I am within the rules at that point to tell the offense that if their pitcher throws at a batter it will be construed as intentional and he will be ejected.

If that is not a warning, then OK, I didn't warn them. I'll just eject.

[RPatrino]

Durham is exactly right. I had the situation in a game several years ago that taught me an incredible lesson. You can't ignore situations that you have a responsibility to handle. Pretty much the exact situation that Durham had in his game. BR legs a triple out, hard slide, there is an 'entanglement' at 3b.
Both players come up shouldering each other, glaring, testosterone flowing freely!! I am PU, BU doesn't say a thing, I don't because it's 'his job'. Long story short, by games end 8 players are ejected, police are standing by for he rumble in the parking lot after the game!!!

Last season, two teams are playing that have a 'history' together, unknown to us. Assistant coach in 3b box starts jabbering at the pitcher. We call time, warn HC about addressing players other then his. Warn the other team, about the same thing. Very next pitch, F1 throws behind the batter. Me PU...he's gone!!! Clearly intentional, and I warn both bench's. Things settle way down, only 1 EJ, game continues without incident (Other than the pitcher's loud mouth Mom chewing my butt after the game).

Originally Posted by Thom Coste

I don't see anything there that prohibits me from warning the other team.

Ozzy said I "cannot warn the offense for something F1 does." I contend that I am within the rules at that point to tell the offense that if their pitcher throws at a batter it will be construed as intentional and he will be ejected.

If that is not a warning, then OK, I didn't warn them. I'll just eject.

From 10-2-3f
f. Penalize for rule infractions, such as balk, interference, baserunning infractions, delay, unwarranted disputing of decision, or unsportsmanlike conduct.

A warning is a form of penalty and I can't find anything in the rules that prohibits an umpire giving a warning for anything (unless the offense is automatic ejection)

I would also emphasize to both coaches what was discussed in the pregame meeting about good sportsmanship