2-Man crew loophole?

[soundedlikeastrike]

"His theory is there is no one there to see the touch/no touch of third".

This should read: his theory is that no "defensive player" is gonna see.

As PU you will see this, or should IMO. The odds of a foul no foul, or even a running lane violation taking your entire attention away from you next responsibility R2, is pretty remote IMO. PU certainly won't be following the BR up the line in this case, as he/she knows their responsibilities for R2.
Ya gotta be ready for a second play on R2 at 3B also, why wouldn't ya be checking him?

I've seen this play, and was truley amazed no one (defense) saw it?
What exactly should F5 and 6 be doing on this play? They should be watching for a return throw to 3B or at the very least watching to holler if R2 heads for home. F5, was no kidding, half way to the mound, watching, F6 was standing on 2B watching. I never paid my guys to spectate.

If by some fluke PU doesn't see it, and the D appeals, well, make a budget next year for a 3 man crew, safe.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike

"His theory is there is no one there to see the touch/no touch of third".

This should read: his theory is that no "defensive player" is gonna see.

As PU you will see this, or should IMO. The odds of a foul no foul, or even a running lane violation taking your entire attention away from you next responsibility R2, is pretty remote IMO. PU certainly won't be following the BR up the line in this case, as he/she knows their responsibilities for R2.
Ya gotta be ready for a second play on R2 at 3B also, why wouldn't ya be checking him?

I've seen this play, and was truley amazed no one (defense) saw it?
What exactly should F5 and 6 be doing on this play? They should be watching for a return throw to 3B or at the very least watching to holler if R2 heads for home. F5, was no kidding, half way to the mound, watching, F6 was standing on 2B watching. I never paid my guys to spectate.

If by some fluke PU doesn't see it, and the D appeals, well, make a budget next year for a 3 man crew, safe.

R2 is my next responsibility at the plate, but on a return throw, the BU is making that call.

[3appleshigh]

This play is actually the biggest loophole in the 2 man, in a proper 2 man, the umps will NOT see this. PERIOD. Base ump is sliding to first, with his back to the play, and the Plate guy has fair/foul. the infraction should be missed by both ump if they are doing thier job. That is why this guy does it. He will even do it when the Other team has the 3rd base dugout.

Sorry Rut, I think you have to Call this safe, and explain the problem with the two man system. But to make a call you never saw, what are you going to say in the arguement with the coach? He knows you didn't see it, because HE was watching you.

It is unsportsmanlike, and I can even see you finding a way to eject this jerky coach, but to give an out when you haven't seen it, thats tough.