Trick play for the early season

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by Rcichon

Travesty of the game comes to mind.

Really? Who was running the bases in reverse order?

(PS - I HATE when fellow officials use that phrase as a crutch ... pet peeve of mine)

[Rcichon]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Really? Who was running the bases in reverse order?

(PS - I HATE when fellow officials use that phrase as a crutch ... pet peeve of mine)

Hey Crowder, I LOVE it when fellow officials get personal to boost their own ego. Reminds me of how not to act. Thanks for the model...

BTW: Thanks Rich and no sarcasm intended.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Rcichon

Hey Crowder, I LOVE it when fellow officials get personal to boost their own ego. Reminds me of how not to act. Thanks for the model...

BTW: Thanks Rich and no sarcasm intended.

Who got personal? Crowder related a pet peeve...one that many share. If you took it personally that's your issue. Misrepresenting "travesty" is all too common. Words have meanings.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by GarthB

... Words have meanings.

"When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less." HD (said rather scornfully)

JM

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by Rcichon

Hey Crowder, I LOVE it when fellow officials get personal to boost their own ego. Reminds me of how not to act. Thanks for the model...

BTW: Thanks Rich and no sarcasm intended.

No offense intended to you personally. I'd love to hear your explanation of how my comment was in ANY way personal.

To expand on my pet peeve (which by no means means anything personal to you! ) - it is bothersome that so many umpires use the phrase you used - "making a travesty of the game" to invent rulings to fit their own personal agendas. I train and schedule umpires, and I've both witnessed and heard about numerous instances of this - usually from the umpire's own explanation of his reasoning in a particularly odd situation.

That phrase appears EXACTLY once in the book, and it's meant to disallow runners running bases in reverse order for the purposes of making a travesty of the game. And that's ALL. It's absolutely not meant as a catch-all to allow umpires to inflict rulings upon teams where otherwise perfectly good rules exist.

Nothing personal.

[Blue37]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

To expand on my pet peeve (which by no means means anything personal to you! ) - it is bothersome that so many umpires use the phrase you used - "making a travesty of the game" to invent rulings to fit their own personal agendas. I train and schedule umpires, and I've both witnessed and heard about numerous instances of this - usually from the umpire's own explanation of his reasoning in a particularly odd situation.

That phrase appears EXACTLY once in the book, and it's meant to disallow runners running bases in reverse order for the purposes of making a travesty of the game. And that's ALL. It's absolutely not meant as a catch-all to allow umpires to inflict rulings upon teams where otherwise perfectly good rules exist.

mcrowder's statement is exactly correct for games using OBR, but it is not true for Fed games. The Fed book also uses the phrase "travesty of the game" in reference to multiple appeals (8-2-6f).