My plate mechanics

[Dave Hensley]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I never said it does.

Yes you did. In the quoted part of the post you replied to, you said "The look is even better then that of navy."

"I never said" is not a good defense if you have the memory of a goldfish.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

Dan, I'd have to disagree with this statement. If you've paid attention for
the length of time you've been here, you've probably seen someone intone that how one looks when they take the field says a lot. Coaches and players
size you up from the start, making a judgement about you based on how you are dressed. Dirty shoes ? You look lazy. Too lazy to clean and shine them.
Wrinkled shirt ? Same. Lazy. Hat or ballbags that do not match your choice
of shirt color ? Stupid. Too stupid to be able to match colors.
Please bear in mind, I'm not calling names, just giving you an idea of what
can go through people's minds. Of course, I'm sure you don't care what they think.

Your right, i dont really care. they will think what they wanna think. I wear black ball bags and thats it.

And around here we do not have an "evaluator". We have an UIC. He does not care which of the 3 colors we use, but LL dress code specifically states we are allowed grey, navy, or black. I have chosen black. If we get a new regulation then i will be happy to meet it. I look professional.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Your right, i dont really care. they will think what they wanna think. I wear black ball bags and thats it.

And around here we do not have an "evaluator". We have an UIC. He does not care which of the 3 colors we use, but LL dress code specifically states we are allowed grey, navy, or black. I have chosen black. If we get a new regulation then i will be happy to meet it. I look professional.

You have now found my ignore list. You are an idiot.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by johnSandlin

With regards to the comments about Jim Evans.........I remember a situation about 7-8 years ago at a tournament I was working.

My crew along with three other crews were in a rain delay, and we had the opportunity and honor to talk and chit chat (all of us umpires) with another MLB umpire that was on one of his vacation stints.

A member of my crew made a comment about another MLB umpire and the one were talking with did not take kindly too my partner's remarks and my partner justly found out quickly that was not the right thing to do in front of another MLB umpire.

My point, I do not believe Jim Evans, a fellow brother umpire, with an impressive resume like he has, is going to make comments like those indicated in earlier responses of this thread.

With that being said, if we are going to question comments made by a MLB umpire, we had better first get a better clarification (if this is possible) of their comments we heard before we go speaking so critically of a MLB umpire of his statue.

Think about these thoughts. Sooner or later the negative opinionated statements that we make in our lives come back to haunt us and normally happen at the time(s) we do not expect them, nor need them.

It's not like Tee was posting hearsay. He was there.

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Your right, i dont really care. they will think what they wanna think. I wear black ball bags and thats it.

And around here we do not have an "evaluator". We have an UIC. He does not care which of the 3 colors we use, but LL dress code specifically states we are allowed grey, navy, or black. I have chosen black. If we get a new regulation then i will be happy to meet it. I look professional.

Well, I tried. I won't make that mistake again. I think I'll join Rich.

[Tim C]

Do you walk in "lock step?"

I posted simply the truth that many, many others have heard (100 umpires in Portland alone).

God, what a ball licker!

Are you calling me a liar?

Regards,

[Tim C]

Dan you're gone!

Now make sure you tell us, "you don't care."

Regards,

[Tim C]

My comments were complete and backed by other examples in Evans clinic.

Also, if you remember the umpire strike this last year, many, many Evans graduates commented the exact things I have said.

Christ Dave, Evans says these things over-and-over -- for you and Sandlin to protect him is silly. He wouldn't say these things unless he felt them.

Jim Evans wants to sell his school. Jim Evans has a very strong ethic for the people he trains. Jim Evans actually made fun of our "Charlie" (a life long umpire that has trained umpires for over 20 years).

You have the right to defend anyone you want . . . we have no respect for each other and that is fine . . . but Jim Evans does not need you to protect his comments.

Regards,

[johnSandlin]

Tim,

1. I am not a ball licker. I have never met Jim Evans in my life, so I could not be a ball licker as you indicated. BTW, is this comment a little bit unprofessional and uncalled for?

2. I am not calling you a liar. I am merely saying before we go voicing our opinions about somebody such as Jim Evans or another Pro umpire, let us make sure we have our thoughts and facts straight. That is all I was saying. I did not hint nor call you a liar.

3. I do not walk in "lock step."

4. Happy New Year! and God Bless.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Your right, i dont really care. they will think what they wanna think. I wear black ball bags and thats it.

And around here we do not have an "evaluator". We have an UIC. He does not care which of the 3 colors we use, but LL dress code specifically states we are allowed grey, navy, or black. I have chosen black. If we get a new regulation then i will be happy to meet it. I look professional.

Pay attention in English class.

Really? I don't recall any of the MLB umpires wearing black ball bags with their navy shirt when they were part of their uniform. But, maybe that's just me.

If you really believe you look professional, why did you ask for comments on anything? In addition, after several people have tried to help you, and you fire back with the "so what, that's how I do it and I'm not changing" attitude. If that's the case, fine, you're not going to become a better umpire, therefore you won't move up -- but whatever. More so, why the hell even bother asking and wasting everyone's time?? What a waste of bandwidth!

Like the others, I am certainly done with this nonsense.

[Tim C]

Do me a favor . . . make sure you keep track of every major league crew rotation so none of us miss this important information.

Groupie!

I posted the truth and actually Dan I don't give a sh1t about what professional umpires do . . . you did question my quotes.

Oh yeah, I'm agnostic so the end of your post has no value too me.

Regards,

[DG]

I own 3 ball bags, all blue. I use two for a game and the 3rd is a backup, an older bag I just haven't thrown away yet. It is a different brand than the other two, those are identical.

I only have navy, power blue, and cream shirts, so I dont' have to worry about what goes with black shirts, but according to some here I should be wearing black bags with the cream shirt.

Until this thread I never gave the bag color much of a thought. It's interesting though because I do give thought to mask color with shirt. I have three masks all with doeskin pads, black, navy and red. The navy shirt with red trim is the only one I will wear the red mask with. I wear the navy mask with navy or powder blue shirt, and the black mask is used with any of them. The black one is the only one with a hangy thingy on it so that sometimes plays into the decision on which to wear, ie who is catching today.

Last year I made a comment about the red mask with black harness and caught some crap from some posters here that the harness should be red. It was a color fashion statement that was like water on a duck's back for me. I could care less. I got the mask on tremendous sale, had a spare set of doeskins and a spare black harness and voila', an item I could use was born.

I have navy and black undershirts if I think they will be visible and when I know they will not be it don't matter. I have worn white under plate gear. I have one red undershirt and I only wear it if working a crew where all the base guys want to use red so I go along.

All my hats are blue. For cold weather my gloves are black and my cold gear for the head is navy (only worn on bases).

Tomorrow I will go back to not giving a thought about my ball bag color, because I only have three, they are all blue, I only use two of them, and nobody I know personnally cares.... To each his own, unless you are trying to impress someone else.

[LomUmp]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Your right, i dont really care. they will think what they wanna think. I wear black ball bags and thats it.

And around here we do not have an "evaluator". We have an UIC. He does not care which of the 3 colors we use, but LL dress code specifically states we are allowed grey, navy, or black. I have chosen black. If we get a new regulation then i will be happy to meet it. I look professional.

Hey all,

Dan, let me 'splain something to you.....
1. I am a UIC for our local LL, which leads to #2.
2. The reason he doesn't care which of the three colors you use is because he is trying to make sure their are enough umpires for the games. If he said you could only wear grey shirts, then he would lose umpires who don't want to come out of their own pocket to buy something.
3. GROW THE F#CK UP! Some of these umpires have been doing it for longer than you have been alive.
4. You look nothing like a professional umpire. As said MANY times before, LOSE THE WRISTBANDS, cut the straps on your mask, match your colors of ball bags and shirts and hats. I didn't notice on the video so I won't even go into the appropriate color of undershirt for each shirt.
5. Learn the difference between an umpire who does LL, and a LL umpire.
6. You ask this group for comments, you will get, for the most part, correct comments.

LomUmp

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by LomUmp

Hey all,

Dan, let me 'splain something to you.....
1. I am a UIC for our local LL, which leads to #2.
2. The reason he doesn't care which of the three colors you use is because he is trying to make sure their are enough umpires for the games. If he said you could only wear grey shirts, then he would lose umpires who don't want to come out of their own pocket to buy something.
3. GROW THE F#CK UP! Some of these umpires have been doing it for longer than you have been alive.
4. You look nothing like a professional umpire. As said MANY times before, LOSE THE WRISTBANDS, cut the straps on your mask, match your colors of ball bags and shirts and hats. I didn't notice on the video so I won't even go into the appropriate color of undershirt for each shirt.
5. Learn the difference between an umpire who does LL, and a LL umpire.
6. You ask this group for comments, you will get, for the most part, correct comments.

LomUmp

no need to go into undershirt color. Red or Blue for navy, blue for light blue shirt.

and to lastly clarify something- our local association hats are black, not navy.

[BigUmp56]

I'll bet the UIC of this league doesn't much care what colors his umpires wear either.




Dan, you're really making an @$$ out of yourself by not at least listening to the advice you're being given. You've still haven't explained to me how wearing those ridiculous wrist bands helps you as an umpire.


Tim.