My plate mechanics

[Tim C]

I do not own navy ball bags. I have black and grey only.

Regards,

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Tim C

I do not own navy ball bags. I have black and grey only.

Regards,

I wouldn't wear grey ball bags if they were given to me as a gift. They look like an old pair of pants were cut up to make them. Blech.

[MadCityRef]

LL-
As the instructors at Evans' said, "The big leaguers can do whatever they want; they're big leaguers. You, dear cadet, will do it this way until told otherwise. If ever."
Unless you have a pituitary problem, no wrist bands. (I have not witnessed your video. Good initiative though.)

[Tim C]

I am slightly confused by your statement:

Jim Evans has never been shy about #1. He says it at all clinics and makes a point of it.

I am confused about #2 as we discussed this issue very throughly on your private list serve group more than once. Jim Evans also said this (in print) to a few umpires in an e-mail to some of the posters on this site.

#3 was said in front of over 100 umpires at the Portland Evans camp last spring.

Now I do not want to define Jim Evans by these three statements but they are accurate, delivered in the context with which he used them and are accurately reported in this thread.

How have they been taken out of context?

Regards,

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I wouldn't wear grey ball bags if they were given to me as a gift. They look like an old pair of pants were cut up to make them. Blech.

But it's not because they don't match your hat, as the fashionista suggests,
correct ?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by tjones1

For the 1000th time, loose the wristbands.

I'm not completely sure, but it appears you might be using black ball bags. If that's the case, loose them as well -- get navy. If I'm wrong, disregard this.


Get a hair cut!

What is wrong with black ball bags? Some associations require black bags and hats. Black ball bags go with black, cream, and MLB Lt. Blue shirts. Navy bags do not.

Get a haircut? Geez, you sound just like my old man!

One of the finest umpires I know has long red hair (in a braided ponytail), and a scraggly red beard. He has been very highly rated for many years. Nobody ever suggested he get a haircut, as he probably would have knocked them on their a$$ for asking him.

[johnSandlin]

With regards to the comments about Jim Evans.........I remember a situation about 7-8 years ago at a tournament I was working.

My crew along with three other crews were in a rain delay, and we had the opportunity and honor to talk and chit chat (all of us umpires) with another MLB umpire that was on one of his vacation stints.

A member of my crew made a comment about another MLB umpire and the one were talking with did not take kindly too my partner's remarks and my partner justly found out quickly that was not the right thing to do in front of another MLB umpire.

My point, I do not believe Jim Evans, a fellow brother umpire, with an impressive resume like he has, is going to make comments like those indicated in earlier responses of this thread.

With that being said, if we are going to question comments made by a MLB umpire, we had better first get a better clarification (if this is possible) of their comments we heard before we go speaking so critically of a MLB umpire of his statue.

Think about these thoughts. Sooner or later the negative opinionated statements that we make in our lives come back to haunt us and normally happen at the time(s) we do not expect them, nor need them.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by johnSandlin

With regards to the comments about Jim Evans.........I remember a situation about 7-8 years ago at a tournament I was working.

My crew along with three other crews were in a rain delay, and we had the opportunity and honor to talk and chit chat (all of us umpires) with another MLB umpire that was on one of his vacation stints.

A member of my crew made a comment about another MLB umpire and the one were talking with did not take kindly too my partner's remarks and my partner justly found out quickly that was not the right thing to do in front of another MLB umpire.

My point, I do not believe Jim Evans, a fellow brother umpire, with an impressive resume like he has, is going to make comments like those indicated in earlier responses of this thread.

With that being said, if we are going to question comments made by a MLB umpire, we had better first get a better clarification (if this is possible) of their comments we heard before we go speaking so critically of a MLB umpire of his statue.

Think about these thoughts. Sooner or later the negative opinionated statements that we make in our lives come back to haunt us and normally happen at the time(s) we do not expect them, nor need them.

It's not like Tee was posting hearsay. He was there.

[Tim C]

1) Evans has made an effort to tell all students to NOT LOOK TO THE SIDE when you call strikes. At the five week, one week Desert Classic and week end clinics Jim specifically comments tht umpires should not look to the side while calling strikes . . . do what you want Chris . . . it is not what Evans currently teaches.

2) You noted: " . . . but you got to give him some credit....He posted himself on video."

The following quote was taken from my post of 01.02.07: " . . . since you took the time and guts to put a vid on . . . "

Chris, it is becoming obvious too me that we have grown apart over the past 5 or 6 yeasr of posting on what it takes to be a great umpire.

I also "am at the top of my game" . . . I just posted a still shot of me working the Davis System and got GREAT criticism. If I had the technology and knew how, I would certainly put video footage of my plate work.

Regards,

[lawump]

I pointed off to the side as a minor league umpire...and received a 4.5 plate rating on my plate work. (For those familiar with the PBUC evaluation "system"...that grade speaks for itself.)

Also, "Sarge" (now an Evans instructor, but at the time a PBUC evaluator) told me after a game, "don't change a thing and you are on your way. And if any one tells you to change, you tell them I told you not to." And that was after a game where I had pointed off to the side.

While "Sarge" does not have the Major League resume of Jim...he certainly has decades of experience as an evaluator/instructor on the professional level.

However...to be fair...if you turn off to the side, you better be darn sure of "what just happened" if something did happen. That's why, LLDan, that I echo the calls from others above for you to slow down.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Tim C

1) Evans has made an effort to tell all students to NOT LOOK TO THE SIDE when you call strikes. At the five week, one week Desert Classic and week end clinics Jim specifically comments tht umpires should not look to the side while calling strikes . . . do what you want Chris . . . it is not what Evans currently teaches.

2) You noted: " . . . but you got to give him some credit....He posted himself on video."

The following quote was taken from my post of 01.02.07: " . . . since you took the time and guts to put a vid on . . . "

Chris, it is becoming obvious too me that we have grown apart over the past 5 or 6 yeasr of posting on what it takes to be a great umpire.

I also "am at the top of my game" . . . I just posted a still shot of me working the Davis System and got GREAT criticism. If I had the technology and knew how, I would certainly put video footage of my plate work.

Regards,

Is all umpiring now judged on what Evans is currently teaching? How would he feel about the GD system in his 5-week school?

[Tim C]

As you know I would not be allowed to use the Davis Stance at Evans EVEN if I was there not wanting a professional position.

Regards,

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Tim C

As you know I would not be allowed to use the Davis Stance at Evans EVEN if I was there not wanting a professional position.

Regards,

Tee:

Any idea why they would be against using the GD?


Tim.

[Tim C]

At professional schools the teach ONLY ONE system so that all students can be evaluated the same. All Class A umpires must work the standard heel-to-instep system as taught at school.

Evans does not even allow the GDS at a WEEKEND Clinics (as we had in Portland last spring) -- when you get your registration information from the Evans Group before the clinic it states that they will teach only those that use the stand heel-to-instep and the scissors.

Evans, BTW, does not believe in ANY part of the GDS system. He thinks it is "mumbo-jumbo" (my term). I had a long talk with him about the stance at our clinic.

Regards,

[Anonymous67]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

OK,

Do you think that my mechanics are decent?

No.

More importantly, who are these people:



And who is roscopcoltrane01?

And what is your fascination with police cars and uniforms?