The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 19, 2006, 09:35am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Newburgh NY
Posts: 1,822
Quote:
"Gee, if it weren't for me, they wouldn't have good umpires" is just overinflated ego. If they gave two hoots about decent umpires, they'd pay to have them, and wouldn't have to pull dads from the stands.
[/QUOTE]

Jim I agree 100%. I suppose we could start a new thread but my assignor picked up work for the Jr./Sr. program of one LL Organization.

RE: They were getting Moms/ Dads from the stands. It got to be so bad, that the parents for these divisions would simply drop their kids off and go get coffee or something and then come back just so that would not be asked to umpire.

You are correct, it's amazing what happens when you pay for umpires. The problem of not having them goes away pretty quickly. Also, the moaning and groaning about the quality also goes, because the parents know first hand what it's like to umpire.

Pete Booth
__________________
Peter M. Booth
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 19, 2006, 11:21am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 99
I may have a solution. San Diego is only an 1.5 hour drive from me. Maybe Steve and I could do a few games and I could do a review. It would be fun to work with another member. Chris
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 19, 2006, 12:28pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 4,222
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman
I may have a solution. San Diego is only an 1.5 hour drive from me. Maybe Steve and I could do a few games and I could do a review. It would be fun to work with another member. Chris
Perhaps you'll get a better response than I did. I'm in the San Diego area periodically and made the same offer.

Steve forgets why the offer was made. After coming on the forum and proclaiming himself good enough to have been a MLU, he was greeted with doubt and derision, and not just by me. The chorus was symphonic in size.

He was insulted about being judged by people who hadn't seen him work. I thought about that and figured he may have a point, so I offered to make arrangements to see him work. Then he seemed insulted that people wanted to see him work. He said something about how some ML umpires told him how could he was.

I figured then that he wouldn't want just little ol'me watching him work, so I suggested that he join me at the Desert Classic where he could be evaluated, and helped, by the staff who teaches at Jim Evans Academy. That didn't fly either.

You are obvioulsy a much nicer guy, Chris. Perhaps you'll have better luck.
__________________
GB
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 19, 2006, 01:53pm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Lakeside, California
Posts: 6,724
Quote:
Originally Posted by GarthB
Perhaps you'll get a better response than I did. I'm in the San Diego area periodically and made the same offer.

Steve forgets why the offer was made. After coming on the forum and proclaiming himself good enough to have been a MLU, he was greeted with doubt and derision, and not just by me. The chorus was symphonic in size.

He was insulted about being judged by people who hadn't seen him work. I thought about that and figured he may have a point, so I offered to make arrangements to see him work. Then he seemed insulted that people wanted to see him work. He said something about how some ML umpires told him how could he was.

I figured then that he wouldn't want just little ol'me watching him work, so I suggested that he join me at the Desert Classic where he could be evaluated, and helped, by the staff who teaches at Jim Evans Academy. That didn't fly either.

You are obvioulsy a much nicer guy, Chris. Perhaps you'll have better luck.
I didn't have any games for you to watch, and like I said, I wasn't about to go out to the hot desert and have a heart attack just for you.

I will be going to school from Jan 2007 to March of 2008, and will not have time for much, if any, umpiring. I have already explained my health situation and my impending educational situation to Chris in a private message. Of course, in his message, he did not mention that he was going to report his findings back to you. I'm not going to umpire with anyone just to be a guinea pig. Plus, anyone can drive down to San Diego, but you can't just schedule yourself a game whenever you want. It doesn't work that way here. If you're not in an association, you don't work here.

Why don't you just drop the subject. I am in nowhere near the great shape I was in when I started umpiring. At that time, I was completely healthy, except for the bad back due to a major car wreck. I was a Physical Education major at San Diego State, and was proficient in 12 different sports, and this is where I got the umpiring bug. And I was a natural at it, and worked very hard to get good at it.

These days, I'm battling Type II diabetes, right side heart failure (complete with heart attack in '98), irregular heartbeat/atrial fibrilation (just diagnosed last week, thank you), hiatal hernia, sleep apnea, underactive thyroid, obesity, and edema. That I worked 90 games last year is in itself miraculous.

My skills as an umpire have not diminished. My stamina has. My appearance has. My health definitely has.

I live in denial that I can still go out and umpire like I used to. It is very difficult to come to grips with the fact that perhaps I can no longer umpire, at least not the volume of games I used to.
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 19, 2006, 03:00pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 99
I am sorry to hear about your health. I know that sometimes it is hard for people to face the facts that age and health plays into our abilities..not just in umpiring, but in life. In regards to Internet umpires, look.....I have never worked with anyone this board ( I saw Sal on TV....he's strong!). Until you have, it is all talk. I know that Davies has seen me work and he can vouch for me. There are alot of ego's out there. That will never end. I look at this board for entertainment value. Now dont get me wrong, I am far from perfect on the field and I get evaluated all the time by my peers or paid observers. If anyone wants to come watch me work...come on down..you could use a good laugh haha Chris
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What is a LL Umpire PeteBooth Baseball 35 Tue Aug 15, 2006 03:50pm
Becoming an Umpire kwoo81 Softball 5 Tue May 16, 2006 04:37pm
AJ and the umpire Dakota Softball 4 Mon Oct 17, 2005 07:04pm
New Umpire U_of_I_Blue Baseball 6 Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:00pm
Best Umpire of MLB KLooking Baseball 11 Sun May 02, 2004 08:05pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:50pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1