Roger's finger 'stuff'

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Uncle George

First of all, LaRussa learned about the "stuff" on Rogers hand from an "reserve" player in the clubhouse who saw it on TV. He told LaRussa, who went to the ump inbetween innings. If LaRussa tells the plate ump that how was was informed, isn't using a television monitor grounds for ejection? Maybe that's whay Tony didn't force the issues.

The direct use of TV monitors is prohibited, as in having one in the dugout for the purpose of stealing signs, etc. The relaying of second-hand information from the monitors located in the clubhouse occurs in all MLB games, and is not illegal.

[DG]

I would be surprised if there was a team who didn't have someone in the clubhouse watching a televised game.

[Uncle George]

That's my point. Maybe LaRussa didn't want to tip his hand. And since the PU wasn't directly asked by LaRussa to examine Rogers hand, the PU let it go.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Uncle George

That's my point. Maybe LaRussa didn't want to tip his hand. And since the PU wasn't directly asked by LaRussa to examine Rogers hand, the PU let it go.

What's your point? I still don't get it.

You said, "If LaRussa tells the plate ump that how was was informed, isn't using a television monitor grounds for ejection?"

I said, "The relaying of second-hand information from the monitors located in the clubhouse occurs in all MLB games, and is not illegal."

If LaRussa received information from the clubhouse that Rogers had this pine tar/poop on his pitching hand, that would not be illegal information, so why would he worry about tipping his hand?

Since Rogers has been photographed in at least 2 other games with the same goop on his hand, I wouldn't recommend he try it again in his next start.

[LMan]

..but will he get another start?




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[Uncle George]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

What's your point? I still don't get it.

You said, "If LaRussa tells the plate ump that how was was informed, isn't using a television monitor grounds for ejection?"

I said, "The relaying of second-hand information from the monitors located in the clubhouse occurs in all MLB games, and is not illegal."

If LaRussa received information from the clubhouse that Rogers had this pine tar/poop on his pitching hand, that would not be illegal information, so why would he worry about tipping his hand?

Since Rogers has been photographed in at least 2 other games with the same goop on his hand, I wouldn't recommend he try it again in his next start.

My point is did LaRussa violate the rule of using a television monitor for coaching purposes? Doe he rule say anyting about first or second hand viewing? Dosen't LaRussa risk being tossed if he tells the PU he saw the pine tar/poop on Rogers hand on a TV? As far as tipping his hand, maybe LaRussa had the player in the club house relaying information on what pitch Rogers was going to throw. (I know, a far fetched idea but hey, anything is possible right?)

BTW, I'm a Card's fan!

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Uncle George

My point is did LaRussa violate the rule of using a television monitor for coaching purposes? Doe he rule say anyting about first or second hand viewing? Dosen't LaRussa risk being tossed if he tells the PU he saw the pine tar/poop on Rogers hand on a TV? As far as tipping his hand, maybe LaRussa had the player in the club house relaying information on what pitch Rogers was going to throw. (I know, a far fetched idea but hey, anything is possible right?)

BTW, I'm a Card's fan!

The rule is that the team cannot have any monitoring device in the dugout. Game info from clubhouse monitors is constantly being relayed to game participants, in every ballpark in the league.

As far as relaying pitches, it really is farfetched. That would require each batter to be wearing a wire of some kind in order to successfully relay that information in a timely manner. Oh yeah, after deciphering the signs, which can be constantly changed. Yeah, it's probably been tried already.

[LMan]

If they could do it to Branca, they can do it today.....

[Jurassic Referee]

LOL.....

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