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[umpire99]

I found this on the Detroit Tigers' Fan Forum:

"Focusing on the inge/rolen collision. yes, thank you tim mccarver for defining obstruction to us...now may i return the favor and explain the baseline to you and my friend the home plate ump: inge was MINIMUM 10 feet into foul ground/out of the base path when rolen fell over him!! i guess some baseball rules carry more weight than others"

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by umpire99

I found this on the Detroit Tigers' Fan Forum:

"Focusing on the inge/rolen collision. yes, thank you tim mccarver for defining obstruction to us...now may i return the favor and explain the baseline to you and my friend the home plate ump: inge was MINIMUM 10 feet into foul ground/out of the base path when rolen fell over him!! i guess some baseball rules carry more weight than others"

Did you reply on the Tigers forum letting them know it was a good call?


Tim.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by PWL

U3 called the obstruction. They should be madder at Inge for booting the ball and then making a poor, rushed throw home. Should have gone to first. Rolen would have scored anyway if not for the obstruction. No Doug Eddings to blame this year..........

Where were all those fans when they lost 119 games?

Randy Marsh had the obstuction too.

[LMan]

PWL, that's what I saw also. I assume that U3 made the initial call and Marsh picked it up to point to HP.

Almost everyone who's not an umpire will wonder why Rolen didn't step around Inge on that play

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by LMan

PWL, that's what I saw also. I assume that U3 made the initial call and Marsh picked it up to point to HP.

Almost everyone who's not an umpire will wonder why Rolen didn't step around Inge on that play

Here's the replay showing Marsh noting the obstruction just a split second after Winters did.


Tim.

[LMan]

Fair enough....I was incorrect. Good call all around, though...


Thanks, Tim!

[DG]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Here's the replay showing Marsh noting the obstruction just a split second after Winters did.

Even Pudge saw it and knew what was called. He was not in a very aggresive plate blocking stance, fielded the throw back rather casually, and just bent over to tag Rolen.

[BigTex]

Originally Posted by PWL

It's difficult to say what he really saw. Looks also as if he saw Winters call of obstruction and Rolen getting up off the ground. If looks as though the ball was left in play as I didn't see any one of the two kill the play.

The ball was left in play because there was not a play being made on Rolen. The ball was somewhere near the backstop when the obstruction occurred. If they had thrown the ball away trying to make a play on Rolen at the plate, the ball needs to remain alive because there were other runners.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by PWL

It's difficult to say what he really saw. Looks also as if he saw Winters call of obstruction and Rolen getting up off the ground. If looks as though the ball was left in play as I didn't see any one of the two kill the play.

I don't think it's difficult at all to see that Marsh turned toward third in time to see the obstruction in it's entirety. As Tex just said, the ball should have remained live and in play on the type B obstruction, until they tried to tag Rolen at the plate. I didn't see it, but Marsh should have called time as soon as the tag was applied.


Tim.

[waltjp]

Excellent call. Can't expect a fan to see it that way.