Mets/Cards - Spiezio Triple

[GoodwillRef]

[QUOTE=GarthB]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Those are judgement calls.

You know what I mean I don't think it should be used for out/safe or ball/strike type of calls. You guys take everything so literally. Fair/foul, homerun/no homerun, fan interference, those types of situations.

[umpduck11]

[QUOTE=GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by GarthB

You know what I mean I don't think it should be used for out/safe or ball/strike type of calls. You guys take everything so literally. Fair/foul, homerun/no homerun, fan interference, those types of situations.

It's a slippery slope from fair/foul to ball/strike.

[GarthB]

[QUOTE=GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by GarthB

You know what I mean I don't think it should be used for out/safe or ball/strike type of calls. You guys take everything so literally. Fair/foul, homerun/no homerun, fan interference, those types of situations.

No, I didn't know what you meant. I didn't know if you knew what you meant. I knew what you wrote.

I am not familiar with you as a poster or as an umpire, and I do not know what you do or do not understand.

Okay, let's take fair/foul situations Will this include whether or not the ball might have hit the batter in the box after hitting the bat and before rolling "fair"? Or do you need to further refine this judgement call?

[bob jenkins]

[QUOTE=GarthB]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

No, I didn't know what you meant. I didn't know if you knew what you meant. I knew what you wrote.

I am not familiar with you as a poster or as an umpire, and I do not know what you do or do not understand.

Okay, let's take fair/foul situations Will this include whether or not the ball might have hit the batter in the box after hitting the bat and before rolling "fair"? Or do you need to further refine this judgement call?

I'd also like to know what will happen if an umpire declares the ball to be "foul" and replay shows it is "fair"? Where will the runners be placed?

[SanDiegoSteve]

I would like to know why everyone has suddenly forgotten how to use the quotation features correctly, so here's a review:

[quote] must be followed by a close of quotation, which is a / before the word quote.

Like this:

Originally Posted by Somebody

What you want to quote

[GarthB]

[QUOTE=SanDiegoSteve]I would like to know why everyone has suddenly forgotten how to use the quotation features correctly, so here's a review:

must be followed by a close of quotation, which is a / before the word quote.

Like this:

I merely hit the "quote button" and how it comes out is how it comes out.

Edited to add: See how screwed up it is this time? There must be an issue with the "quote button" feature. Trust me, Bob and I aren't screwing this up in purpose.

[LilLeaguer]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Hmm. Quoting a quote seems to get things messed up. The result of the Quote button here had two Quote tags (one for GarthB, one for SanDiegoSteve) and one /Quote end tag. It was messed up. I manually added a second /Quote end tag and things appear to be better. At least, the preview looks OK.

[LilLeaguer]

Originally Posted by GarthB

I merely hit the "quote button" and how it comes out is how it comes out.

Edited to add: See how screwed up it is this time? There must be an issue with the "quote button" feature. Trust me, Bob and I aren't screwing this up in purpose.

I see that in my last post I ended the SDS post incorrectly, attributing Garth's words to Steve. It matters where you put the /Quote end tag, and I've lost some of Steve's original message. (The quote button has never brought out nested quotations completely.)

[umpduck11]

[QUOTE=SanDiegoSteve]I would like to know why everyone has suddenly forgotten how to use the quotation features correctly, so here's a review:

must be followed by a close of quotation, which is a / before the word quote.

Like this:

Perhaps you could start a thread containing a quote option tutorial.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

I'd also like to know what will happen if an umpire declares the ball to be "foul" and replay shows it is "fair"? Where will the runners be placed?

One change that will occur after replay is introduced: umpires will stop calling borderline cases foul. They'll call it fair and wait for the replay officials to clean up the mess.

[UMP25]

[QUOTE=bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by GarthB

I'd also like to know what will happen if an umpire declares the ball to be "foul" and replay shows it is "fair"? Where will the runners be placed?

Bob,

This already happened this year, but without replay involved. Third base umpire Randy Marsh (cc) called a ground ball down the third base line foul that Plate Umpire Angel Hernandez--surprise, surprise, huh?--came out and changed to a fair ball. Whether the ball was actually fair or foul is, IMHO, irrelevant--it was really impossible to tell via replay. The umpires huddled together and decided to award the batter a hit. I don't recall the particulars--someone correct me if I'm wrong here--but I think they placed the B-R on second.

I can tell you this much: I was told by my friend that the call should have remained foul once Marsh ruled it such, regardless of whether it was, in reality, fair. I suppose the fact that Angel was involved doesn't surprise many of us.