Coverage of Steal of third

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

i think this guy's joking with us.
he referenced a guy named charlie (this is key), who went to pro-school, almost to PBUC...but would have the PU take a steal at third.

Must be April 1st 2006 a little late or April 1st 2007 a little early.


Tim.

[LMan]

My, my the trolls are everywhere lately. Must be the weather.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

No way, just about everything on the bases is the BU's job. Ran into the same thing on the 60' diamond. Im on SS side of second, runner steals. MY job on the bases. I still work with PU's who think that PU should take third. And of course i have to tell them that isnt right on a steal situation. If there were runners on the move or something and i watching 1st & 2nd, then in that situation PU moves up the line.

[Dave Hensley]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

No way, just about everything on the bases is the BU's job. Ran into the same thing on the 60' diamond. Im on SS side of second, runner steals. MY job on the bases. I still work with PU's who think that PU should take third. And of course i have to tell them that isnt right on a steal situation. If there were runners on the move or something and i watching 1st & 2nd, then in that situation PU moves up the line.

Dan, you're speaking untruths and gibberish again. "Just about everything on the bases" is NOT solely BU's job; there are a number of situations in which a 2-man crew rotates, giving PU responsibility for base coverage. Depending on the situation, PU may be responsible for plays at 1B, 2B, and 3B.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by Dave Hensley

Dan, you're speaking untruths and gibberish again. "Just about everything on the bases" is NOT solely BU's job; there are a number of situations in which a 2-man crew rotates, giving PU responsibility for base coverage. Depending on the situation, PU may be responsible for plays at 1B, 2B, and 3B.

Well again, we are talking different levels. We do not go out on fly balls, so PU doesnt make any calls at first or 2nd. I can possibly understand PU calls at 1B, but not 2B.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Well again, we are talking different levels. We do not go out on fly balls, so PU doesnt make any calls at first or 2nd. I can possibly understand PU calls at 1B, but not 2B.

You need to be better trained, then.

Even on the small diamond, the base umpire in A can go out. That makes the BR the responsibility of the PU at first, second, third...

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Well again, we are talking different levels. We do not go out on fly balls, so PU doesn't make any calls at first or 2nd. I can possibly understand PU calls at 1B, but not 2B.

Seems that LL has changed since the early 1980's. Base umpires went out on trouble balls and the PU took the runners. But lately, LL has allowed the PU's to "grow roots" behind the plate.

Also remember, you're not on a "LL only" forum here so your statements will get challenged and corrected. We try to cover the three rule books out there (and there are only 3) OBR, NCAA and FED. Anything else is derived from one of these as in your case; LL is derived from OBR. Please try and remember that.

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by LMan

My, my the trolls are everywhere lately. Must be the weather.

Okay, I thought I would figure this out with time... but that didn't happen.


What exactly is a "troll?"

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

Okay, I thought I would figure this out with time... but that didn't happen.


What exactly is a "troll?"

A troll is someone who only posts to start trouble, instigate stuff, insult people, get people pissed, etc. Then they sit back and laugh at fools like me who get irritated by them. They rarely have anything substantial to offer.

LMan is not a troll, contrary to what was recently written. LMan brings a lot to the table, including a sharp wit, which he disperses evenly and fairly.

[ctblu40]

Thanks! Now I get it...


BTW- On a close play steal of second, is it okay to ask your partner if he saw the tag if the assiatant coach comes out and asks me to appeal?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Yes, if you play in Sheriff Black Jack's league (Which is the Justice Calvin Ball League, I think).

[LomUmp]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

Thanks! Now I get it...


BTW- On a close play steal of second, is it okay to ask your partner if he saw the tag if the assiatant coach comes out and asks me to appeal?

Hey all,

That depend's on if you would be willing to go to the parking lot and tell the A$$istant coach what your partner said after said coach got dumped...why would he be out of the dugout, anyway?

LomUmp